The Overly Excited Podcast

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Welcome to the overly excited podcast hosted by Jack Watts and Dale

Sidebottom. Two friends with a passion for life, learning. And all

things that get them jumping out of their seats.

Alright, everyone. Welcome back to the overly excited podcast.

I am bouncing out of my seat. I'll tell you why. It is episode number

46. My name's Dale Silber, and I'm joined for the

very first time through a screen, not in the shed, by the one

and only Jack Watts, the Sydney bound Bondi

superstar. How are you, great man? So, Adi, I'll tell you

what. I miss the physical touch, mate. It's not the same. Been out of

not rub your body and you know, I needed a bit of a hug

today too. It's just it's been a big couple of weeks and a big night

last night. So a little side bottom hug would have been nice. But

A a little hug. That's alright, mate. I'll come up just underneath your belly button.

But, now, mate, we are excited.

We, we did have a few podcasts in the bank, so we

haven't, obviously recorded one for a while. So,

mate, I wanna go through a few things with you because, obviously, you're in Sydney.

Over the weekend, our beautiful host, Kristen Gibson, organized

me to go down to. This is a lovely community. I know she's

been talking about it for a long time, and I had the pleasure of going

down and, with both Amy's and the amazing crew about 40,

45 of them and running a session for her. And it was beautiful. And,

I just loved the community element. And I know you've spoken about this before

and so is Gibo, but, there were people from all different walks of life. And

it was it's just a really nice thing, and it made me think about that.

You know? Like, we where we we met at, BFT mates.

So very similar, you know, like minded people and, you

got a community and you go there and there's a gain. You're introduced to people

from all over the place. And I think that's the beautiful thing. Now why I'm

talking about this, mate, is because you've obviously moved up to Sydney. You've

left, you know, you've left your safety net. You've left all those people,

your family. You know, you you grew up 15 minutes down the road

from where you live now. How are you going? Obviously, in

Sydney. And, what's your plans to find, like, a community,

mate? I I know you're not the sort of person that struggles to, start a

conversation or make a friend. Bloody hell. You're like super glued to anyone that

looks at you. Coming home of Jack. How are you going, mate? Talk

to me. Yeah. Yeah. It's, well, I mean,

that's it. Isn't it? That's what we love about life, and that's what me and

you you love is is the people around us and the community and having

fun and lifting people up. And so, yeah, going

on to a new city that, you know, where I don't really know

anyone. Well, I've been in 2 weeks and I'm

almost already the mayor of Sydney. So it won't take me long,

mate. Don't worry. But, but, but, yeah, it

is a bit daunting. You know, it is a little bit daunting. It's, you know,

are are they gonna be as open minded as me? And are people gonna be

open to being my friend? And are they gonna like me? And, you

know, all this kind of stuff. But, yeah, in the first

couple of weeks, I've already found, like, there's a there's a fair sort of community

in the property game. So, you know, just going

around and and meeting, you know, a couple of old mates from school that work

up here. And then they say, oh, have you met have you spoken to John

O'Blobs down there at thing? I'm like, oh, I didn't know he was in Sydney.

And then, you know, the next minute, I'm I'm already in the basketball team down

at the local high school on a Sunday night. So Dang. That's

community. That's your community, mate. Love that.

Exactly. Exactly. So it's it all you know, it happens pretty quickly

and, but and it's funny. Like, that was sort of what I was

most looking forward to was trying to find, you know, find a

basketball team, find a a gym, and, and I've sort of

locked both of those in already in the 1st week. Went to

played in the semifinal for the for the boys, and we got up in overtime.

So it was a pretty good little start. Jeez.

But, yeah, it's, it's exciting. It's all brand new. It's a

lot at the moment. So, just sort of head down,

bum up, working hard, and then and then playing pretty hard too. So,

you know, when I get my little moments to myself, I'm not really out

of there socializing, to be honest. I'm I'm,

recovering. You're, you're in your lovely one better on Bondi Beach,

mate. Loving life. Now a lot of people, obviously

and I wanna know, like, going up there and just, like, as

you said, you're excited about finding new things. We we is

there any bit of anxiety or nervousness or like, do you are

you, like, just that freakish that you'd like, you just find the

positive where you find it exciting? Surely, you get a little bit, like, you're a

bit nervous or anxious. Like like, going into a completely different job

in, like, in the building industry, corporate, you moved

up Sydney, you left everything. Sure. Can you just give me something that you're a

little bit human? Or you're

not? I don't know. Like, I mean,

like, I really didn't have much anxiety

or or any worry about, like like, the only real worry

I have is, like, you know, is

the camp, like, Amicus has been so good to me so that, you

know, I just wanna I'm hoping that I can repay the

favor and be good at my job, you know. So they've sort of put a

bit of faith in me and and backed me in. You know, I just

like, the only little bit of tiny anxiety I I had sort of coming in

was, fuck, what if I'm shit? And what if what if I'm no good at

the job? And and, you know but I sort of I don't know.

Already I can sort of see that I'm I think I'm gonna be pretty good

at it. I think, you know, it suits me pretty well.

And, you know, but it it is you know, it's just

it's that work hard. I've got, you know, so much to learn at the moment.

But in terms of coming up here and I was I was just pumped. Like,

I love, you know, the obviously got lucky with the apartment, living on

Bondi, finding a gym, meeting new people. The work's

fun, you know, like it's a it's a lot of fun. It's it's,

it's competitive, you know, you're, and and

it's social. It's like so so social. So, and we got

a great team as well. So it's sort of, you know, I can't really

complain too much. And then, you know, obviously, the only other thing was was

being away from from family and friends and and, you know,

my my girlfriend and, you know, that's sort of that's

the one thing that has been a bit tough and,

you know, I've just certainly had the you know, in the first what have I

been here now? 2 weeks. I've had,

you know, probably, like, quite a few nights where you're sitting there

and, you know, I get the FaceTime from Ellen and she's at

her at my place and she's got the dogs and she's cooked a beautiful meal

and I'm sitting here. I can feeling sorry for myself on my

own, and I don't have that, like and

that's sort of funny, like, the things that you miss. It's

just, like, the really simple things, like, just having dinner together every night

and, like, just getting in the bed together and and having a hug and a

kiss and a cuddle and having that touch.

You know, not having that you've like, that's really what I I

miss. And it's like it's, yeah. Just the little

it's like the little things. It's not the big going out to for big Friday

night dinners in the city or it's not the you know, it's just the little

things that that that are hard to, live without.

So little things that we don't realize the the big things. We don't

it's not even taken for granted, but when you are away and you don't have

that, it just amplifies it 10 fold, mate.

Yeah. Yeah. And you you'd know exactly, like, when you're away and, you

know, like, everyone thinks it's like, oh, how fun's that? You're off to Singapore or

you're off to this for a week and you get to do what you want

and blah blah blah. But, you know, you it's it's not it's not sort

of it's not every it's not all

rosy and, you know, blah blah blah because it's you you have your your

damn moments. And you you do have great times, but you have your moments where

you sort of struggle a bit and you and you miss, you know, you

miss what you're used to and what you enjoy back home. Yes.

I think when you're going away or you've got that opportunity, you're excited about

having a break. But then when you do have that break, and particularly, I think,

like, you've just mentioned the sitting by yourself, like,

you know, and that you just get your phone out, you scroll, you do something,

but, like, nothing fulfills you. And I think Yeah. Like, particularly, I was

thinking about I know I spoke about it with kids and my life at the

moment is freaking chaotic. You know? Like, and so I look forward to going away,

but then when I'm away and you're sitting there by yourself, you sort you wanna

be back there? And it you sort of have to catch yourself and remind yourself

that, jeez, only only last week, you're telling everybody a hard life

is rah rah, but that's the thing you miss the most. It's like you get

used to it. You don't know what you want until you you don't

know any different. And you Yeah. Yeah. I I don't know. Like, obviously, our lives

are a little bit different in what you're saying. You know, your dinner time is

probably nice and relaxing, but I'm not used to really sitting down, like, going crazy.

But it's still the same thing that the things that you don't realize

you need are the things that you really do need. And it's funny

because, like, we yeah. Like, I guess it's

it's almost like a lesson in in just enjoying the

every moment, like, enjoying the present. Because, you know, as you said, yeah, when it's

chaotic and you're going, fuck. I'd love a I'd love a break. I'd love a

I'd love to get away from it or whatever. And then you get away and

you go, oh, god. I miss that. And god, I miss the kids hanging off

hanging off me and, you know, screaming and going nuts. And god, I miss

and so it's all like, you know what? Just almost we're always

gonna long for things, and we're always gonna want and desire certain things.

But at the same time, like, be content with where you are right

now and what you're doing and and try to enjoy and get the most out

of that present moment because it'll change. And if something else different

will come in the next week and, you know,

it's, I think if if you live too much in

that world of, like, I wish I was there or I wish I was doing

that or I I wish I had that right now, it can sort it can

be a bit soul soul destroying. The well, the

the grass isn't always greener, mate. And I think, our new business partner,

Paul Campbell, give him a shout out. We did a podcast the other day, and

he brought it back to it's all about perspective. You know, like, when you really

put things in perspective and you think about what really matters, You

know, we think we want all these different things or that's gonna make us happy

or different things like that. But really, when you sit back and you put your

life into perspective and really, you know, how lucky we are to even

be on lot in in Earth for 1, but more importantly to live in

Australia. Like, you live in the beach in Bondi. You know? We're a beautiful life

based out in Melbourne. Like, you can complain about so many things, but

perspective, if you just say that word, and I've been doing it since, you know,

we spoke about it, and it makes you pull yourself up on things. Because a

lot of time, particularly myself, I didn't I'm not trying to be a

negative person, but the things I'm focusing on are negatives, you

know, and no one wants to hear that. I'm like, I don't wanna be that

person, but that's what consumes you. So you sometimes need to just

take a step back and go, oh, you're hating your peanut. You got the best

life. You're so lucky. Maybe maybe celebrate instead of

going on like you do. You know? I don't know. I think it's so simple

to say perspective. Take a step back and think. And and

that's like it's you know, I think you do a lot with your journals and

stuff and you and you the work that you do is like that gratitude, and

we speak about it all the time. But and it's hard when, you know, because

if you are having a tough week or if you are struggling, you know, it

is hard to to, you know, just tell yourself, oh, be positive be

positive. But I I almost feel like that's it. Like, if you, you

know, if you practice it and you tell yourself and you

focus on the positive things, like, it's you you gotta make a conscious effort to

do that because I think it's it's so easy to go down that

road of, like, you know, looking at all the things that you don't have and

looking at the bad things in your life and looking at the the struggles.

But if you can sort of change that voice in your in your

mind to focus on the really good things and the positive things, like, you can

find them. You can find them and they can just they can be tiny and

they can be the fact that you, you know, you had a phone call with

your friend or you've got the ability to go and get a coffee in the

morning or you, you know, whatever it is. Like, you they don't have to be

big things. But if you if you can, try to concentrate on

those, it it like, slowly but surely,

I think it sort of becomes ingrained in you that you focus on the positive

things. And, an attitude of gratitude, Jacko.

There's one for you, mate. Hey.

Write that one down. Oh, that's that one. Yeah. You can have it, mate. Take

that away. Put it in your toolkit or your skyrocket, whatever you want. Is

that, like obviously, it's easier said than done, though. Is is that what you've

tried to sort of practice, you know, while we've been

talking about particularly, you know, at at night where you've been by yourself and Alan,

you know, obviously, you've got a new relationship. It was not that new, but

sort of new ish, I suppose. Yeah. This is probably the

first hurdle you've had to really come across as a big

one. You know? You're not living in the same state. Is that something you've tried

to do is focus on the positives and not the negatives? Yeah.

Definitely. Like and even, I

think for us, it's like we we as I I spoke to you before the

pod, like, we went through our calendar and just sort of, like, got a lot

of things booked in so that you got something to look forward to. But but

even that, like, I'm coming over this

weekend and, she sort of said, oh, what time are you going home Sunday? Because

I have to be home sort of early Sunday. And and she was like, oh,

it's that that's so early. Like so and and I just sort of said,

oh, instead of, you know, instead of focusing on, like, Sunday when I go home

that it's too early. Like, we get all Friday together. We get all Saturdays

together. Like, let's make the most of that.

Perspective, Jacko. Perspective. That's it. That's

it. Just trying to because, you know, it is gonna be

difficult and it and so if you if you focus on what's hard about

it, it's just gonna make it even harder.

So and she look, she's really good at it. She's so good at being staying

positive and I'd like to think I'm the same, but it's just, you know, I

think it's real like, we're both probably realizing now that this

is this is sort of reality for a while.

And it's gonna be it's gonna be pretty tough. It's gonna be hard. It's

gonna be shit for a lot of it. Like, let's be honest.

Like, yeah. Already it's fucking it's, it's a

bit lonely and it's a bit you know, you just

don't have that person in your life who you've spent every day with for the

last 6 months. Every single day,

every single night, you love them so much. You they give you all this, you

know, beautiful love and care and,

you know, you I think yeah. You like,

I guess with me and her, like, you do sort of really really rely on

this person. And you you probably don't realize just how

much of your life, that she or how much of

my life she has filled up in in this in the last 6 months.

And how much I love everything, you know, having her, what

we do together, and, all the time we get to spend together. You

sort of take it for granted when it's when it's there, and then now it's

like, fuck. It's, there's a there's a big void in my

life without her being there. You, well, that's the thing. You can

plan everything as much as you want, but, it's probably

like bringing it back to having kids. You know? Like, we did, like, birthing classes

and all these different things, and you think you're ready for what's about

to come and very similar. Do you know what I mean? Like, you 2 planned

out this move so much, and you spoke about it. And you talked about the

pros and cons and how it's going to work and like what you do with

your calendar and so forth. But until you actually move to Sydney or

until you get that baby, you're like, what the fuck? Where where's

all that planning going? Like, it's you it actually gives you nothing,

and you basically gotta start again on field. Like and it's really hard when

you don't have you've got that pressure now. Like

Yeah. Whereas when you're planning it out and things like that, like, it it's all

well and good to plan what you want, but that that never happens like how

it's planned. Yep. Yep. It's sort of that's, you know, the old ad, it's like

it's easy to talk about things, isn't it? But doing them it's easy to

talk about training, and it's easy to talk about going to the gym, and it's

easy to talk about and set things up, but actually following through is

is the hard bit and that's the important bit. That's sort of

where we're at now is is, you know, right in the middle of that and

finding our feet with it and what works and, you know, phone calls

and do you talk every every night and do you do this

or, you know, just trying to figure it all out and figure what works

for us. But, but yeah. You know, and

that's it's that's it. Like, you could yeah. It's

very easy to focus on on what's on what's

bad about the situation. You know? Like, if I want if we wanted to, we

could complain or for you know, till the cows come home about not

being together and how good it is when we are together and why we're doing

this. But, you you know, I think that's sort of, you know and that's what

it comes down to. You sort of you go back to why you

made the decision and and, and the reason for for why we're doing it

is, you know, like, I've got it's just a great opportunity

for me that could set me up the life sort of going forward,

and, you know, we'll figure it out.

And you look and you look back in a couple of years' time, mate, and

you you know what I mean? But, you know, when you're caught up in in

the the heat of the battle, like, the blinkers are on as, you know,

your horse reference. You're a big horsey now. I'm well aware of that. Matt

Matthew Pavlich, obviously, your favorite commentator of equestrian.

With that being said, though, how are you enjoying,

because, obviously, you know, you ran your own business, squash, and it probably the

last 6 to 12 months pretty testing. How are you

finding I know there's obviously new pressures, and there always will be, like like you

said, you wanna repay the favor of how well they've looked after you and things

like that. But are you finding it refreshing, like, not each

day going in trying to scrap and then how are we gonna pay the bills

and, like, it it like, is it just is that

nice? Yeah. It sure is. It's it's,

it's nice just, like, working for a

big company with a big team, and you you've got you

know? So it's I just sort of I love the balance that we've got at

the moment because it's like I can go at, like, Tuesdays, everyone's in the office.

So we've got, you know, 40, 50 people in there. And you you have your

big team lunch and they put on the lunch and you go out for blah

blah blah. And everyone's there, But then you can also work from home on the

Wednesday and you can get your your alone time and you can go down the

beach and you can, you know, blah blah blah. And then I've got the the

event side of it where I get to go out for beautiful dinners and I'm

meeting people and there's a lot of coffees. And I love going to get coffee

with people, and, you know. So it's it's just like,

there's a lot of dimensions to it. It's not one dimensional at all. It's,

there's a lot to it. And I'm sort of I feel like I'm just scratching

the surface on what, you know, in terms of, getting to know everyone

up here and and understanding the property game and understanding office fit

outs. And, so yeah. It's exciting.

There's sort of there's new challenge. There's always something to do. Whereas, I think with

squash, it was, you know, it was just a bit stressful

and we we were so hamstrung financially that, you know,

it was a bit, I guess, the things that

you want to do, like the fun things that I might wanna organize, or I

might wanna take people out for dinner, or I might wanna organize an event for

my friends and, you know, make that like, that's the fun side of it that

I love. We weren't able to do that, so then it almost just turned

into, like, you know, we're on the grind just on the emails and, you

know, talking to people and and that was pretty much it. So

it became a bit one dimensional, a bit boring. So,

yeah, it's it's, it's fun. It's good. It's a challenge.

Now I just wanna start making some money. Oh. Doing some bills.

Woo hoo. Big boy. Oh, okay, mate. Well, it's good to hear, mate. I

think, like, it's it's so good to hear. Like, you

know, when you like, for business owners out there, like, the hard times are

really hard. And when you're in it and you feel like there's no support

or anything like that, but I think it's important that you've experienced

that because, you know, now when you're dealing with people that

run businesses and so forth, that's gonna be a really big, like,

help for what you've got instead of, you know, playing foot of your life and

building eyes, given everything or whatever. Like, you've got an actual that that

narrative and that story, mate, like, that's powerful.

Yeah. Yeah. I've actually noticed that already. Like, a lot of, you know, clients

and and, like, people that I'm meeting, they're

very interested in that. Like, you they sort of say, oh, what we doing before

this? And, you know, you say, oh, I had my own business. And it's like,

woah. You ran your own business for 8 years and, you know, and then you

went through, like, a you know, you sold it. You went through that whole process.

Like, so you understand all of that? It's, it's

certainly something that piques people's interest. That's for sure.

And what what about you? How's how's Paul going? Paul's going really well,

mate. It's, it's been just so nice

to have a like minded human

that to share things with. Like, Yeah.

It's just, suppose when you you build

something over 8 years of exactly the same time frame as you, but I've just

done it all by myself. So I don't know any other gear

besides flat out, and I think that's been one of the things, like, he's like,

mate, do you wanna offload some things you do and teach me? And I'm like,

oh, mate. Look, I I can just keep doing that. I'm just like, I want

you to come into the business and think about what you would do if you're

starting out yourself and maybe just create something new or,

like, think about what you would do outside the square because a lot of things,

you know, I do that I've I've got an assistant as well and and,

like, she does those, which is great. But, all the things I do, like, you

can just keep doing them. But I suppose the big thing for me is now,

like, when we're doing some big events, next week, we got,

5 big events, like, one event each day in different, like,

different places around Victoria. It's just nice to be out there that

you don't I don't have to speak for 6 hours straight every day, drive,

sleep, and do it again. Like, because, mate, I I'm I'm I don't

have the end of like, people think I'm up and about, but you do that

for enough days and it, like, you literally I use quite a lot of

energy, Jacko, when I'm on the stage. And so just to have someone to feed

off with and, yeah, just see him grow as well. Like, he was

always very similar to yourself. I've never seen

someone that is just the ultimate at building connections with

people. Like, walk in very similar to yourself as I said, and

that's just I think that's one of the most important life skills you could ever

have. I think other things can be taught, but

being able to do that, that's, that's a really big skill in itself.

So for me, sharing and celebrating different things

and so that's the thing. Normally, I'd go into a big talk to 3, 400

people and, like, crush it and love it. And then you get in the car,

you drive home, and bang. Oh, yep. Can you get the kid in the bath?

And, like, you never celebrate anything. It's it's weird. You know? Like, whereas

now it's like we celebrate things. Like, that was unreal and, yeah. So

for me, personally, just like, it's obviously a bit of a risk getting

like, taking the plunge and thinking, yeah, I know where we're gonna go and what

we're doing. But I'm just so glad I did that now. And also for

him to come aboard, you know, he left a big

AP, assistant principal position and, yeah. It's

just I think it's it's going really nice. It's,

yeah, it's something that I've wanted for a while, but I've wanted the right person,

and and it feels like, yeah, we we've got it all going well,

mate. So, yeah, to answer your question, very

pleased, and and probably probably really excited now

about the future. I think one of my things as I sat down last year,

and I'm like, where do I wanna be in 3 years time? Do I wanna

be doing 80 to 90 speaking gigs a year? And I'm like,

no. I I don't because I can't physically keep up with that. And

those 80 or 90 days I'm doing that, I'm not working. Like, you're speaking.

So then you come home, you put the kids to bed, and you work after

hours. And here I am teaching people how to be happy and healthy and live

a good life. And, you know, for a long time, I've been a bit of

a hypocrite because, you know, I I work for 3 or 4 hours after 7

PM when I get the kids down, and then you're up and you do it

again. So, I think it's given me a lot more balance, but, yeah,

just it's nice to have a teammate. Like, it's you you know, it's like

you when you when you feed off other people, it's and you celebrate the highs

and the lows. I'm loving that. Yep. That's what it's about, isn't it?

Having someone there to share the share the experience with, you know, that's,

you know, it's I sort of relate it to, like, life

and and, you know, my life the most. Like, having Ellen there, like, you're

sharing every experience and you're riding the ups and downs and

you're, you know, with this person. And,

like, that's that's the joy and that's sort of what I'm realizing I'm missing a

bit now. It's like, you don't have that, like, come home and you don't you're

not yeah. You don't have that person there that you can share the day with

and then go, let's go for a swim and let's go do this. It's like

you're you are sort of it's you're all on your own a bit.

So it's nice for you to have that, after, you

know, so long of doing it yourself. And and,

you know, not not really having that in a work sense.

Nice for you to have someone there now that you can sort of bounce off

and, you know, you you I find you get so much energy off off

people, you know. Like Oh, big time. You're like, you might you might be having

a shit day and and someone comes into the office and they're bouncing around and

they're having a great time and it lifts you up. Yep. So that's, you

know, and I always try and be that person, you know. I try to Do

you? So do you. No. You don't. No. You don't, Jack.

But, like, you know, it does help, doesn't it? It works. Massive. And I I

think it's something you don't know what you want or how good it is until

you've had it. And it's like, you know, if if you hadn't met Alan or

whatever, and you you had to move out to Sydney by yourself, you probably were

in a lot better, like, than how you're feeling because you wouldn't have

known how amazing it was to love someone as much as you love Alan. I

worked for 8 years by myself, and it was great, but I didn't know what

it was like if you got the right person, very similar. And I feel any

aspect of your life, it's a relationship. Doesn't matter if it's an intimate one or

whatever. Like, it's gotta be the right fit. And when you do get that

right fit, it's bloody amazing. Like, you know, I

I think that's yeah. So people are out there and you, you

know, you don't like your job or some aspect to your life, you don't you're

not really that impressed with. I I don't know. There's so many options out there,

and there is the right fit. I I just don't don't settle for

because when you do get it right, it's, well, it's hard to live

without, as you know what I mean? As you're finding out.

But also that's a really good sign as well that it is the right thing,

Jacko. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be interesting coming home

tomorrow. It's the first time, you know, haven't seen her for about

9 to 14 days ish. 10 days. So, woo,

look out. Look at her. Jacko's Jacko's flying in her mouth.

Full steam ahead. Full steam ahead. It's, it's

it is not like, it's nice missing someone. Like, you know, it's nice having

that that something pulling you back

and feeling like you, you know and now it's like that excitement to me

tonight. It's like, you know, you're excite I'm excited to get back there, and

all I wanna do is go straight to her and and, you know, give her

a big hug. And so it'll be fun. It'll be good.

Good on you, Jay. Well, mate, you're a bit flat tonight. And this is, you

know, this was always our our thing, mate. We'd come into the shed, and

you're a bit more up and a bit out tonight than, what you were when

we then when we jumped on the little Zoom. Maybe not took you a while

to sort out with your phone and, running off hotspot like you're a

16 year old kid. Mate, thank you

for sharing tonight. I, I really enjoyed hearing that just

because it's so funny. Like, every when you were talking about it, the

you know, living away and and feeling bowel or whatever. It's

I think so many things are relatable in so many different areas of your life,

and it exactly the same as, you know, what I'm going up. My life's a

little bit different than what yours is at the moment, but you still feel similar

things and that they're all relatable in a way. Yep.

Yep. And I think that, like, what you started with in terms of that

perspective thing is is so important, isn't it? Like, when

especially when you're going through tough times, you know,

like, if we can try to, you know, focus on the positives and and

look at the things that we do have. Like, yes, I'm away from now, and

yes, it's hard. Yes, it's but as you said, I'm living in Bondi.

I've got a great job that I'm actually enjoying. I'm I'm making

new friends. I'm going to the you know, and you can you can

sort of turn it around in your own head even if even if

everything in your head's going fucking hell. I'm hating this. I would just wanna be

home with my partner and my dog.

You know, you can sort of almost fake it in your own head and tell

you, you know, and start focusing on on what you do have and

and it can sort of pull you out of that rut. So that's what I'll

be focusing on for a while. I agree. And the thing is no one will

do that for you, mate. Like, do you mean that that's something that individuals have

to do themselves. And I feel sometimes sitting

in, I don't know, negative thoughts or hard times is a really positive thing if

you if you look at it the right way. That's what I mean. Like, obviously,

you are, mate. So, big boy. Amazing. You're, off

to the footy tomorrow night, and I'll tell you what. If there's a spare

ticket in that box, I'll, oh, I'll come

that full steam train that you're gonna be when you get off that flight in

the morning. Well, I'll I'll actually let you know because,

yeah, I think we've got I think there is, like, a spare spot at the

moment. They're obviously trying to fill it with a client. But Fill it fill it

with someone that's gonna bring you some revenue, not just a little bit of fun

and energy, mate. Yeah. But you just never know, mate. You there might be

some, you know Mate, as we've spoken about You might need an office one of

these days. Well, there's not much room in this office, mate. There's a but

as you know well, buddy, there's not much space left with all the junk in

here. Well, well, you've grown to 2 people now. What give it

give it 12 months. You might have 50 in there, so you might you might

need a big space. I don't know if, Braze would be pretty happy the 50

years working out a little shed. But,

anyway, listen. It's episode number 46 with a great man in Bondi.

He will be on Bondi Rescue soon. No doubt. Strutting his stuff, getting

around it. But, Jacko, pleasure. This

is a new norm for us. Screen in between, but,

I still felt the love, the energy, mate. I had I was a bit

I'll be honest. I didn't know how it'd go, mate. Like, when you like,

because I didn't know where today'd go. I literally just had Morty c Dippers

and BFT about community. I just wanted to know about how, obviously, you're

going in Sydney. In that, we just start talking and it just starts

rolling. Bang, baby. I it was it's my beautiful

therapy session. I needed it.

Alright, listeners. Thanks for listening. Peace out. Love you,

mate. See you. Bye.