#32 Jack & Dale | Sharp Clothing & Playful Astronauts: Inspiring Stories from The Overly Excited Podcast
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Welcome to the overly excited podcast hosted by Jack Watts and Dale
Sidebottom. 2 friends with a passion for life, learning and all
things that get them jumping out of their seats.
Alrighty, everyone. Tell you what. Done a bit of prep today. Wow.
This episode It's not often we do prep, Cydie. So when you told me you're
you're ready for me tonight. I'm excited, mate. It's episode number 32. And like back
in the day, Carmelone, I'm bringing the mail, baby. 32? I thought it was I
thought Tony was 30. Oh, Jacko. So Tony's
that would you don't want to anticipation. Oh, no. Start
around. Oh. That's like it's mother's day coming up. Me telling Bray what
she's getting before she Oh, no. I've just stepped right in
there. Even more good intros. Fucked
it. So you so you had planned that with tonne. You told me to say
33 with tonne. Oh. That's how far ahead you're thinking.
Wow. I didn't think you had that in you, but
I'm glad I've impressed you there. That's okay. Episode 32. Yeah. So listen,
Next week, we've got Tony on. Sorry.
Oh. I'm sweating with my what is this guy doing?
So next week, we got Tony on. That'll be a good one. That'll be I
can't wait for that interview. That's gonna be a great interview. I reckon it's
I reckon it's gonna be a real good one.
Alright. So Thank you, sir. 32.
We're ready to rock and roll. Now listen, that is the most
shambolic start we've had. And we've had some
horrors, I reckon. But I've thoroughly enjoyed your innocence,
Sam. You actually just had no idea your face went but then your face
went blank, and you're like, oh, no. We're giving the listeners
the real deal. We don't fake shit over here. We tell you how
it is. Oh, no. We tell you that we feel we
record ahead of time and then we fake it and then we bring it out.
We actually let you know, so I'm happy about it. And not often do I
prepare and I shouldn't have because the whole preparation of what's gonna do. That's fine.
Anyway, all good. Now before we start, I just wanna, have an apology.
I recommended a TV show on Netflix, a couple of weeks
ago called baby reindeer. Now it's nearly the have you watched it? I just started,
man. We're we're about 5 episodes in. Episode 4? So I
recommended it after 3 episodes, which was fine.
I still like it. Did did you like it? I Was that when she when
When he, like, got he was getting groomed and he was getting, like, have
you with that guy. Have you you seen that? Martha and the
No. Not the the guy, the director, the I don't wanna give it away for
people. No. No. I haven't seen it. No. Okay. Anyway, you might have watched 3
episodes like I did when I recommended it. I'm retracting my recommendation
because episode 4 made me sick. I know things like this going in the
world, but oh. Okay. Yeah. I've I've really
struggled watching it. So I actually think I've got that episode tonight after
this. I can't wait for a little message because once this is done, I'll probably
go to bed. But you'll probably come in into the gym in the morning, go,
what What? Was that? Fuck. Okay. I'm excited for that. I bet you
know what? Since recommending it, I don't know if it's just the people
listening to the podcast, Jack. But it's gonna be numb it's not the most
views feature on Netflix. It had 0
viewers up until last week. Baby what? It had
not been watched. And then you recommended it on the overly excited
podcast. And it has blown up number 1 worldwide. And I'm retracting it.
Anyway, so good luck enjoying that. I hope I haven't, like, freaked
anyone out. Now, Jake, how do you polish a turd?
Can it be done? Can it even be done? Talk to us about what was
happening today because, very enjoyable.
Philist is out there. New range of clothing has dropped. Squash. Amazing.
Let's talk about it because I'm actually in last year's jumper. I'm feeling a
bit inadequate. Yep. Yep. Yep. You're looking very, very nice. Thank you, mate.
I'm wearing the, squash ski resort. It's a slippery slope.
Was this inspired by your new love affair with skiing?
Wow. This actually, this came first. Squash came
first. Squash always comes first. I love my squash
boys. But now we've got the big winter range coming out.
And and look. We've made a lot of shit over the years. I'm not gonna
lie. There's been a lot of garbage that I'd never ever wear, but this
Lot of good stuff too, though. Like A lot of good stuff. Thoroughly, thoroughly good
quality. But this range is, you know, it's really sort
of hitting my my little sweet spot. I think
it'll it'll fucking go really well and and we're pumped with it.
You know, Stubby's had a sort of freedom creative license.
We've got, you know, we got the outrageous stuff for the people
that want to make a big statement. And then we got the sort of classy,
you know, subtle navies and charcoals and, the
sweats are amazing. Great fit. Then we got the polar fleeces, which
there's, this Miami nice polar fleece, which is my favorite. It's
this bright poppy orange sort of polar fleece. Suits your personality.
Yeah. Exactly. I think I'd lock one of those too. Thanks, Jecko. I'll get you
a couple of Thank you, Ben. Appreciate that. What mediums? Medium or large? Don't know.
So you know when you sort of in between? I might need to try a
couple on, mate. Oh, well, I've got a lot here, so you can try some
of this. Thanks for that, listeners. The perks of doing a podcast on the dress
as well and create some? Because that is very nice. I do like that. Thanks,
mate. But, but, yes, we we were in the office today. You know, it's
all about this content, and it's all about getting user generated
content, engagement online. And you love it.
And look, you don't have to ask me twice to get my kid off, do
you? You voluntarily do it. And, no. And I
play the I play the oh, they're making me do this. They're forcing me
little You did roll in and say that tonight. Little do they
know I've just done the 20,000 push ups. The biceps just to get a
nice pump up. And do you need me to take the shirt off today, boys?
Yep. Let's go. Keep the trail. Keep the jocks on. Well, yeah. So I had
the little boy jocks on today, which, you know,
that's sort of a rarity. I usually wear the brakes, but just had the little
boys on. And, you know, I thought a real man owns
this. Yeah. Correct. And, so out there I go in the little
boy jokes. Ellen messaged me and said, jeez.
Some pretty good help. She said some pretty hot stuff. I was getting a bit
flustered watching this the squash website. I said you can have you can have
that anytime you want. You're lucky to
but, but now it was pretty funny. It was pretty funny. Yeah.
How to polish a turd. For listeners that don't know what I'm
talking about, where can you explain the video you did with Stubby? Yeah.
Also been a guest on the show. I can't remember off top of my head,
but very funny man. Yeah. Very funny man. The content you created today, the video
was brilliant. Yeah. It was well. It was pretty much off the top of the
top of the noggin, to be honest. You know, I'll actually claim
that I've come up with that little slogan to start with. Can you polish a
turd? And then I'm pretty sure. That was just today, this
morning. And then, so, you know, I'm
sitting there just in my jocks and Stubby's Stubby's obviously the cool one. So
he knows how to dress. He's the one that we all wanna look like.
And, he just sort of I asked him if he can polish a turd like
me and make me look nice. And he takes us through, you know,
how you can style all of our winter, apparel and and make
it look somewhat cool on a daggy person like me. I
don't think you're daggy, but very funny. And I think,
particularly, you know, when you're in the clothing industry, you know, your online
presence is very important. People's attention span these days
is so so slim. You know, content used to be able to
create. It doesn't matter what platform. You've got a fraction of a second
now to capture. And I think that's where you and your jocks and stuff
in there. I already had 3 people send it to me, and then and Brie
was like, well, look at these. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, because
I don't really go through that stuff. But I watched it. I enjoyed it. They
did a great job. Yeah. I think once you yeah. That's that's the trouble.
And that's where it can sort of you you tread this fine line of, like,
cringe. Mhmm. If you don't pull it off, it's fucking horrendous.
And and, you know, but Are you having fun though? Exactly. And that's that's
all it's about. I reckon that's it. That's what we make, you know, we make
sure that that, you know, we do keep it fun and we fucking
laugh at ourselves and, you know, I'm I'm looking forward to the
outtakes video that comes out because, fucking hell, there's some good
good content. How long did that take to do? Like, a minute
about a minute. Yeah. Yeah. So it's about a minute and 20. I think the
the end of the final product. Yep. I
reckon it would have taken, you know, from start to finish,
you know, somewhere in the half an hour to an hour. Oh, Jesus. It's pretty
good. Like, we we're not like, we haven't planned anything. You know? So
that's where, like, the the big accounts that have got people
working on, you know, social media full time, they've organized and thought up
these things. Yeah. I know. But it's not authentic. No. I think that that's
where, like, one take. Yeah. I'm always if I can't get in one take, if
I make a mistake, then that's who I am. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then, like That's
what we we find. Be like that. We find, you know, people relate
more to to the mistakes and to the fuck ups and to the who we
are as, you know, you actually get our our own personalities
coming across like that. It's not polished as well. Pardon the
pun. Pardon the pun. Oh, you have planted all of you.
But, yeah. It is good fun. That's what we love about it. Love it. So
if I want to go and buy some squash clothes, which who wouldn't
Yep. Wearing one of the shirts now as well. It's amazing how many squash clothes
I do have. If you are our number one, Anne, that's it. Do buy me
because I like supporting my friends. But, like, you are very generous as well. Where
could people that wanna buy some go? Yep. So www.squash,
s k w o s h, dotcom.au.
That's the website. Or you can go onto my profile, Instagram
profile. I think I've got the link there or, or squash club,
on Instagram as well. They can, yeah, jump on there, and it'll
take you straight to the website, and you get all the new goodies. You get
the new goodies. And I must have been I love the video. Not quite as
much as the Albert Park sign. Oh. The
things I've done for this business, I tell you what. Still really They were my
favorite. We might have to get a little overly excited podcast
discount. Chuck in overly excited
into the, into your basket and, we'll get you Friday to
sort that out. Okay. Alright. There you go. We'll get, what what's
what's acceptable? 20's not much. 30's
a lot. I'd go 20. 20. Yeah. 24 hour overly
excited. If you're overly excited, listening along one of our
long term hard listeners that we love. Jacko's on the phone right
now. I'm putting it in. In the promo code, type in overly
excited. One word Yep. Lowercase. Lowercase. And you will
get 20% off anything on there. Particularly, treat yourself to some of
the new range, and feel free to share that code. I love
how Jack just made that up on the spot and, 20. I think 20 is
a nice number. Okay? Yep. 20 is nice. That while she won't hate me for
20, if I say 30 or Well, I'll tell you what, if all the
baby reindeer listeners come in and then if you listen, Netflix, I
tell you what, they are just blowing up because of ass. Now go and
check those out. I love that. What else, mate? What else has been
happening? What else has been happening? Jeez. Big
week. Busy week. Yeah. Last week, it was
just nonstop. Hurt my car for my Saturday morning run with
Mitchie. Fucking hell. I'm getting old. And it's funny how,
like, once you, you know, then I missed basketball last night because I can't play
because the calf and body fit. I can't do my skipping or the running.
It's it's, it does sort of hamper you a fair bit. I've been
going down to a wellness center just in Mordialli. So,
it's called Wild Soul Wellness. Just like it's interesting, you know, you
can you can do the cold therapy in the in the ocean
or whatever it is, but it's a bit like BFT. It's almost like
I think I prefer the community aspect of
it more than I do the actual, you know, like, it's not
like I could go and do the body fit sessions at any gym or at
my house or but it's the fact of going down there
and the people and that and And it's down, mate. Yeah. I've said that
multiple times. Yep. So this wellness center, you know, it's just it's got the
sauna. I got a sauna in my bloody garage, but I go to this one
because there's people there. You interact. You talk. Like minded
people. Mhmm. People who are in, you know, in similar spots to you
and And they value value their health,
which is so important. Yep. So That's your number one thing. Like, you should
be doesn't have to go to a gym or a wellness, but you find
something that makes you feel good. Makes you feel good. Yeah. And that's it. And
that's it. So, yeah, I've been, I've been smashing
that lately, which has been, enjoyable.
What else? Mother's day coming up. Mother's day coming up. Very, very excited for
that. I to, go out and play golf with, with the
doll's mother in the morning. Yes. And then off to my my beautiful
mother's house for a nice little dinner with the with the whole fam and
my sister and her two little ones. And so that'll be a nice
Sunday, Arvo, I'd say. Other than that, life's good, mate.
Good. Life's good. Yeah. Trying to trying to focus on a bit more sleep.
Sort of wearing my my boot band and, you know, I'm probably averaging sort of
5 to 5 and a half hours, which just isn't quite
enough for the life that I'm trying to live at the moment. That's not enough
for anyone, man. Like, if you you watch Matthew Walker's
TED Talk? No. I've seen it. I've listened to a few of these pods. Yeah.
Sleep and things like that. Yeah. That's definitely not enough. I'd be around
over 7, isn't it? You'd meant to. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I think
I can I'll probably, like, on the lower end of what I need, but
it'd be nice to sort of over 6 and a half minimum would be
would be ideal, I think, for me. So trying to focus on that a
little bit. And,
yeah, it's about it. Nice, mate. What about you? What's been happening?
That's exciting news. Got, kids booked the deal that I've,
signed with Publishers. So Wow. That's been going for a couple of years. It's called
the playful astronaut. How good. So the astronaut's a little
kid that starts off on earth and visits each planet. And each planet has got
a unique skill that teaches it something like kindness or resilience
or empathy. And each and then once they leave each
planet, they get a part of their space suit. So for families, instead
of saying to someone, their kid, are you being grateful? Then you go, are you
wearing a space helmet grill? So each has got something for him. By the
end, they've got 7, sorry, 9 different life skills and they visit 9 different
planets. And so part of that too is I want we wanted to make
it a little bit different. So in the sort of last page, you open it
up and there's QR codes for each of the planet in the life skill. And
you scan that, and then we've got a lesson that families can do
as a family. And we've got one that adults can do so in the workplace.
But then I've created a play based game for each of
the life skills. For each of the Yeah. So particularly if,
you know, somebody's, you know, they might be going through a bit of conflict
or they might be a little bit low in confidence. Yeah. Alright. Then
there's specific things that the kid can do, the adult can do, but
also the family will relate back to the book. That's right. Yeah. So it's
been something been working on with my mentor and friend, Brad, for
We've both been doing it together for nearly two and a half years now. So,
it's good we got the release date end of October. So, yeah, it's
starting to work with, the editing team and, the,
yeah, the brand the design of the book and the flow and How
exciting. Yeah. So that's pretty that's pretty exciting. Have, you know, like,
specific actions because I'm sure I mean, I don't know this because I'm not a
parent, but I'm sure you have moments, you know, where there's certain
areas where you you're just noticing you a kid might be lacking for a
couple of weeks. Okay. Maybe it's confidence. Maybe
it's, you know, whatever it is, manners. Yeah. Maybe
it's, so to have, you know and I know personally when I was a
kid, space, planets, that was my favorite Correct.
Subject. Yep. You know, it just absolutely kept my
attention where not a lot of other things do. And
so and collecting our little part of the space and all. It up.
Give it to you. Oh. And I think that's the best thing about it. Like,
you don't need to label it, you know, gratitude. Mhmm. It's your space, like, your
visor. Yep. You know? Or for empathy, it's your space boots.
Yep. You know, if you're confident, it's your jet pack. Yep. You know? So you
don't have to label, but but it's something you can relate it back to. Yep.
So I think that language is really important. And also, be relatable. Kids love
space. You can learn about space. Yep. But it's something you can do as a
whole family. Mhmm. Whereas I say, if you walked into our house now, there'd be
probably a 120, a 150 kids books everywhere, which are brilliant.
I love reading them, but sort of once you read them, that's it. Yeah. And
I know that's what they're meant for, but, yeah, we wanted to sort of create
it so it's the the, like, the cornerstone of something bigger. Yep.
Don't know how that'll go. I haven't seen anyone else try and do this. But
Oh, it's exciting. And, you know, just I mean, I'm
just spitballing here, but I've got a feeling that potentially in
episode 33, that's that's about to happen, but we
haven't recorded yet. I've got a feeling that the great
Tony Armstrong, the great creator himself, he may have
even come up with a child's book himself too. So you 2 have
something in common there. Well, potentially, I'm not sure if
he's gonna talk about this book, The Wizard, up in the mountain
that, you know, I'm I'm not sure, but just potentially listeners, you
might hear something like that. You might. You might. So
so that's, it's exciting for me, mate. Another thing I wanted to
before I I'd like to talk about Georgie Parker's episode last week as well because
a lot of fun. One thing I've got, like, at the
moment, there's a lot of year 12 camps coming up. So
this is the time of year where schools take away year 12 for 3 or
4 days, and they do a lot of planning and brainstorming and sort
of getting them set for, you know, your final exams. I
go on a lot of these and I'll work with them and essentially, you know,
like, give them a good experience, teach them how to regulate stress and
anxiety and things. But I sort of do it in a fun way so they
don't realize. They're not labeling it. I wanna get your perspective here.
What what do you what would your number one bit of advice be? And probably
for listeners, you could think about this as well and let us know. But if
you were speaking the year twelves from, you know, everything you've gone through and things
like that, what would you say would be the most important thing for them?
Oh, jeez. That's tough. Oh, no. I told you I did some practice. You've done
really well. I I guess, like, what helped me was,
you know, I I think perspective, trying to
understand and it's hard when you're in year 12. It's like anything when you're in
In it. When you're in it. Yeah. It's really hard. But just trying to
trying to, you know, I guess, portray to them that
their wealth and and their well-being and who they are
and their value is not, you know,
directly correlated to how good they do at school. Yeah. And I think score.
Their score, that one number. You know, you are so much more than
that. That's not to say, you know, don't give it everything
you've got and be and take pride in, you know, trying to get a
really good score and trying to learn. And but I think that's probably the main,
like, just, you know, enjoy the learning, enjoy the
learning part, enjoy, you know, gaining knowledge on certain
topics and, you know, that's probably what I would
say. And and and, I mean, we
we probably heard it. I heard it a 1000000 times back when I was in
year 12, They're the best days of your life. I like, I have
fun. Don't, you know, it's I guess it's easy to say is
there something a bit more tangible or usable, but, mate, that's my message.
Yeah. It's like, have fun. Enjoy it. You know, you're only there
once. But how do you sort of get that through to them? Because they probably
hear that all the time. And I'm sure they do, but I think, it's great
advice because I totally agree. I think too often, we
we know what we wanna get. We wanna get these scores, so you wish away
your days. Mhmm. You know, like, my big thing is just find ways to enjoy
each day. Yep. It's not gonna be good. And I use this in year 11,
year 12, I I had glandular fever both years because I put so much pressure
on myself, and I didn't enjoy it. Mhmm. You know, and so my whole thing
is, like what you just said, have fun. And I think hard when you're
in it, though. Yeah. And, I I mean, I look at my life and
everything that I have excelled at and done really well
at, I'm enjoying everything. And the more I enjoy it,
the better I get at it. Because the more I wanna do it, the more
I put into it, the more because when you're enjoying something, you're
loving it. It's not a chore. It's not, you know, playing
basketball when I was a kid, I would sit out the back from the day
minute I got home at 4 4 o'clock from school, and I'll just shoot
hoops until dinner at 7:30. And then I'd get dad to come out for
another hour. And then, you know, oh, no. I don't wanna go to bed, but
alright. I gotta go inside. You know? Because you just love it, and you you're
pretending that you're Michael Jordan, and it's 3, 2, 1,
2, 2 game winner. Come on. So, you know, if you can
enjoy something I mean, the hard thing is when, you know, if you're not enjoying
it, if you're not enjoying the study, and I didn't. So
I I found studying very difficult. Like, because Most
people do, like, I not many people love it. No.
Especially at that age. Like, maybe if it's a bit more
meaningful to you. But Yeah. I know. But you're just sort of doing it because,
you know, a lot if you're on a good score, a lot of time you're
doing it because, you know, it gets you a high rated score. And
that's where it is hard because you have to put the hours in. Yep. But
then you also need to have things that you love as well to counteract that.
Yeah. And I think that's exactly like anything in life, that you've gotta have
things that you look forward to or that you get that joy out of. Yeah.
And then you're like, okay. But I don't I'm not gonna love everything. Mhmm. I
have to work hard to do this, and then I can get time or I've
got money. I've got things to be able to do, things I do love. The
only way I could ever sit down and study was to put something on the
end of it. So Mhmm. To say, like, this is the only way I would
sit down, and I could only ever go for half an hour. Yep. Half
an hour tops to an hour. You know? I was to
say, alright, at 4 o'clock, I'm
gonna go around to my mate's place, and we're gonna, you know, play Xbox or
whatever. So it's 3 o'clock now. I can work I can I'll give it
half an hour, and then I'll get ready and I'll go. Yep. That was the
only way I could do it when I knew I had something that I was
gonna enjoy to go to. So But also, I think
shorter is the way is better than longer. Just because
spending all day doing something doesn't mean you're that proactive. Mhmm. I'm a big
believer in only working a couple hours a day because when I do work, I
work really well. Yeah. And then it gives me time to do other things. Yep.
And there's so much evidence now around, like, a 4 day working week, and
so many companies are trialing it. Why? Because it's proven.
Yep. Work harder. Yep. When you're there. And you're more yeah.
Exactly. Like Reward. Get rewards there. I think we all know, like,
anyone that's done a 9 to 5, you all know that it gets
to 3:30, and I'm shutting off. I've got nothing left going on up there
upstairs. And, you know, you get in at 9 o'clock, and you do 2 hours
of absolute firework. Mhmm. And then you go and you think, okay. I'm a
bit hungry. Alright. Coffee. Alright. Lunch. You know? And you sort of
start to waver a little bit and you go and have your break. You come
back, you might have another hour in you, and then it's It's not maintenance. I
reckon you've only got 3 hours in. 3 or 4. Yeah. Yeah. That's
good. Some people obviously are different. Yeah. But and you work at different
times. But, yeah, I think that's that's good advice. Yep. And I think that can
be related to any aspect. And I think that comes back to last
week's guest, Georgie Parker. Georgie. Loved her energy.
She's super sweet. Energy and her honesty. She's unbelievable. I've had a few
few people say, wow. That's like listening to 3 people with ADHD just
talk to each other. I was like, wow. Yeah. Didn't really
think about the That came across. You saw that sort of well That's pretty much
so. There's a bit going on.
Yeah. I never thought we'd find someone who could absolutely overpower you
and I with ease. And what is happening? She did
it easily. And, yeah, she's extremely capable, isn't
she? And, you know, I just love I love
her her sort of no fuss attitude. You know,
she's she knows what she's doing. She's confident. She's well,
educated. So she knows she's confident in what
she has to say, you know, and that's what I love about her. And, you
know, she toes that line of being cheeky. And,
and that's, you know, that's sort of exactly the kind of person that I love.
You know? Like, so, yeah, was pretty awesome
having her on and hearing her insight and hearing her a sort of, you
know, journey through life and sport and then also, you
know, into the media and professional life and, yeah.
What a what a superstar. Yeah. I just found it so interesting that you
can be the best in the world at what you do, but still struggle to
get into mainstream media. Mhmm. I think that's where, like, I I
love watching hockey and some probably more like games that are at the
Olympics and things like that. Because you don't see it so often, they're
still training as hard, but they don't probably get the exposure.
Yeah. So then, you know, he's played over a 100 caps for the
hockey roos, which is unbelievable. Yep. Commonwealth
games, Olympic, sorry, didn't win the Olympics. Sorry, Georgi. But,
so at the world champs or something? Yeah. Like, and all these different things. And
then, you know, because it's not you don't just have that platform to
go straight into afterwards because, you know, you train 4 years for
2 weeks or, you know, the Commonwealth games every 2 years and the Olympics
every 2 years. But, wow. Like, it just makes you think,
like, I don't know. You do a pre you did a pre season every year,
then you get to play a full season. Yeah. Exposure, as good as that
exposure is. Like in you've spoken multiple times about it being
negative exposure, but it's also can be positive. Absolutely. It's helped me.
Now you've got all these doors open. Because even though you didn't have the
best experience all the time, people still saw you. Yeah. And that's
because you were on TV. You're in the mainstream media. You weren't
just watching the Olympics every 4 years, and you got to watch
maybe a couple of their games if you're lucky at prime time. You know,
so I just find that Yeah. Isn't it, like and I know you don't always
choose the sport. Sometimes the sport chooses you. But I think as well,
what I find interesting with that is, like, the the, you know, the
what they're earning. Like, they're training just as hard. If
not, you know, she she said, like, she did a pre season with Collingwood,
and she said the pressure and the the nonstop,
you know, whole year round stress
and training that you go through with hockey because it's a world sport Yeah.
With so much more than footy, you get your 12 weeks off from
bloody October to, you know, September to whenever well, for me,
August, June, off until you know?
And then you and then you train for a little bit, and then you get
another few weeks off over to Christie, and then you train for a bit, and
then you're playing games. You know, so they're training just as
hard, if not harder, but they're getting no reward. It's sort sort of
like the, you know, like Netballers, for instance, in in Australia.
Like, they train, you know, these women are having to almost,
work full time jobs away from being an elite athlete
because they're not getting rewarded financially. It's it's, you know
And then the best of the best. Yeah. Like in I I I
really struggle with that. And I just think it's so unfair, and I
completely get where she's coming from because, like But I guess then the
argument is the sport is not generating the revenue. So
what can you do about that? Well, you can't do anything about it. And this
is always going to be the debate. Mhmm. You know, and that's where that It's
hard, isn't it? It it is so hard, and there's no right or wrong answer.
And it just I don't know. You just and she was happy, I suppose, at
the time and still what she did. And I think that's what it's gonna come
back to. You can't if you're comparing what someone else is doing,
you're gonna lose that love of what you're doing. Yeah. Even though it's probably
it's not fair, but that's the reality of the world we live in. And maybe
that's almost like, you know, silver lining is
no one's really doing playing hockey for the money or, you know, I'm sure the
world absolute best, whatever. But but, you know, if
the the money in the isn't quite, it's not life
changing cash. They're doing it because they love it. Yeah. They're doing it
for the love of the game and because they've, you know,
which is, you know, all you can really hope for anyone is to be doing
what they love. And and, you know, obviously, if she got to travel the
world and she got great friendships out of it and,
Still smart though, like, because she was studying while she was doing it. Yeah.
You know, and that's where you were studying as well, but probably not as
important. Mhmm. Do you know what I mean? Like, good that you did it and
followed through, but, like, they're essentially and this is I found
this, like, thinking and reflecting on it. You know, like, they straight
out playing all around the world. Once they finish that, they sort of left
with not much. Yeah. And you've gotta start your life when all your
friends have started living it in their twenties and started building on that.
Yep. And that's Big time. You know, so there's so many things I
feel particularly in female sport that they have to sacrifice to
be able to do it, but then they don't get the long term re the
reward. Yeah. And that that's the thing that I, like, I
think is unfair. Yeah. But, again, then we've got the debate. Where do you go
with that? You know? Sorry. Yeah. You Well, then everyone argues, oh, the
standard's not as good because and they're they're not getting as they're not getting
any rewards. So why would people be putting in their heart and souls to to
try get to that level and, you know But this is where you can you
can never compare. You know, I really don't like it when people compare
AFL or cricket or netball or any sport because we're
genetically made up differently. The games are different. Mhmm. And they're
both different in ways of skills, all aspects of it.
Mhmm. But unfortunately, we wanna compare everything. Yeah.
Yeah. So I found her honesty really refreshing. Yep.
And it was just nice that, you know, she's cruising through and still
she's living a really good life. She's happy and, you know, she's finding
a way to do it in a as she still said, a very male dominated
industry, particularly in, you know, mainstream AFL. Yep.
And doing a great job at sticking it right after some some losers
there, which I love from her. She
didn't hold back, which I thought was brilliant. She's the best. And talking
about that, I went a bit of a yarn eventy. I went a Oh. Event
remember yarn event? Yana Vent? Yana Vent. No.
So she was like a old school news reporter, like, with Sandra
Salif. Anyway, Yana, vent. I'm gonna vent you. You're gonna vent. So
this is a real privileged place to be in.
So I've got a pool To have a pool these days
now I'm gonna sound like the biggest wanker with what I'm gonna say if I
haven't already. No. I've already sat My pool's only at
20 7 degrees. No. No. It's not at 29. No. So
to have a pool and this is great. Like, I'm all 4. You have
to have, like, a license to have a pool and you have to because of
safety reasons, which is fine. Not a problem. I'm all for that. So I have
to pay the council yearly to have a pool
that I don't get anything for that. But then today, I had to have 2
guys come around and give my pool an inspection. And so I had
to pay they they were here for 8 minutes. Oh, you you you
pool's in really good nick, your fence, isn't it? I said, you reckon? A couple
of young kids who what do you reckon I'm just gonna that it's not gonna
shut? Like, seriously had to pay for that. Pay
$250 for these people to
come in and give my pool and inspection, then then they give me a certificate.
Then I've gotta upload this certificate through the council, who then check it
that I have to pay for it. Every 4 years, I have to get them
back to do a pool inspection, but then the council
checks that pool is just like
I was really polite because these 2 people have come around. I don't I didn't
mention that. It's not their fault and they've got a great business because
they're going they're gonna need it. Minutes and saying, yep, you're good. Look.
Good on you, those lovely people. Well done. I was just so pissed
off. Why do I have to pay the council to have a pool when they
don't even come and check it? Mhmm. Oh, it just made me
think, like, what is this world we're living in? Yes.
Like, that is just a cash grab if I've
ever seen one. It's common sense is flying out the window these
days, isn't it? You need license for everything. Yeah. And I started picking up Nathan.
I won't get a license to play golf because my drive is that horrendous and
it's dangerous. It's dangerous. 100% that's slow. The poor
cars in the car park up the first. Oh. And the highway
when you're playing with your buzz. But I was just like, that is anyway, that
got me quite angry. So I'm pretty pretty good these days about
thinking about the rationale behind it, but I couldn't see this. Mhmm. And I
was so pissed off when I was here for 7 minutes. What did you what
did you how did you handle it? What did you do afterwards? Did you, you
know, did you see this did you give them any piece of your mind while
No. Definitely. No. Definitely not. That
was so lovely. They still haven't given me the certificate. I paid them and, you
know, I still need that too. So I remember if you don't get it into
the council, they might get fined. What is this going on?
Anyway, anger, that's my Yana Vint for those out
there. Now we've got a really good guest coming up next
week. Jack Peck, this is on number 33. Oh, yes
we do. I was like, who's next? I I don't think we've got the
next yes we do. We've got a ripping guess.
And look, I just think that this is gonna be one of the great episodes.
I've just got a feeling in my waters. You know, I
just think that he might have us around on a Friday afternoon, and,
and we'll have a great chat out of this beautiful house in in
Brunswick. The one and only Tony Armstrong,
good friend of mine. He is taking the world by storm at the
moment. Grabbing pulls by the horn. He really is. He he had a great
AFL career, played at 3 different clubs, I believe.
He's just one of the most magnetic energetic
human beings that I've ever met. Can can bloody
party with the best of them and too? Like, there's no doubt about that
one, but, he's just honestly, yeah. We're very
thankful that he's he's come on the show, and he's accepted our invitation,
and really looking forward to delving a bit deeper into his life.
Yeah. You know, the the dual logies, That's a bit of a
party trick that pulls out. Did you get the the logis out? You see? It'll
snap the logis. People did that everybody sat night on,
mate. They are they are literally out in
the dining room table. You're hanging out with him. I loved,
his story because, you know, similar to yourself, like, the
AFL, I suppose, dream,
like, didn't fill out how you probably thought it would. Yeah. And
and neither did his. You know? I don't think he played 35 games for 3
different clubs. But then I loved his story
of what he had to do, the different jobs he did, and the
things he just chipped away at
to get where he is now. Like, you see him on ABC. You see him,
you know, winning the Logies. You see him doing his podcast, releasing
kids books, doing all these Yeah. Like, really high profile
things. Yep. But he didn't just get those. That's right. And I
that's I just loved his story, his journey, and the way he spoke
about it. Yep. Everyone's exactly. It's so easy just to see him now and
go, oh, yeah. He's just got that or he's it's like it's all
about that grind and the journey and the hard times,
and nothing comes easy as we spoke about. And not you know,
anyone at the top of their game didn't just fall on their feet and
arrive there. It took hours years of
dedication, hard work, perseverance, getting
smashed, getting knocked down, continually getting back
up and fighting for what you love and what you believe in. So, yeah,
I think, I think the listeners are gonna enjoy that one. Oh, I know.
I reckon we've recorded a joke.
Well, there goes the last bit of planning on Linda.
But I'll tell you what, Karl Malone, Utah Jazz back in the day, Johnny Stockton,
number 12, would've given the assist. The mailman. The mailman delivered.
Thank you very much, Jacko. Well done, mate. Well done. Good on tonight.