The Overly Excited Podcast

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Welcome to the overly excited podcast hosted by Jack Watts and Dale

Sidebottom. Two friends with a passion for life, learning and all

things that get them jumping out of their seats. My

favorite number 31 I've ever played footy. Duskelly. Duskelly.

It's very well worth it. Number, isn't it? Okay. We're already getting

carried away here. It is episode 31. We are blessed

today, Soddy, with an incredible guest. Not only is she gorgeous,

but she's a world class athlete. She

she was once described as the most brilliant

player of her generation. She's competed on the world stage.

It's one thing to go out and run around at the MCG in front of

a bunch of Bogan Aussies. It's in the whole another kettle of fish to go

out on the world stage at the Olympic Games.

And I think she might have the tattoo to prove it or if you're gonna

be I'm getting it taken off. You're getting rid of that. Oh, Oh. Getting

it removed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you wanna say my name? I'll keep going. I'll

keep going. We have the great Georgie Parker on the pod. Thank

you Georgie for coming on. No. And, I'm looking forward to this one

because I feel like we sort of met in a weird little

way. We haven't really had our night yet that we keep

talking about. Probably a good thing. Yeah. Probably. Probably. But I'm not being

canceled yet, and I'd like to keep it that way. And as we just discussed,

I have been before and, I can be half canceled and you're here and you're

ready to go. Exactly. But thanks for coming on. Looking forward to, you know, just

delving a little deeper and getting to know you a bit more. Yeah. Well, I'll

I'll give what I can. And we start the pod. We start every pod

with the same question going Dale. It's the overly excited podcast. So Georgie

Parker, what gets you out of bed in the morning? What gets you excited?

Oh. Other than That's a big question. Keep it PG. Keep it

whatever you want. It's a really big question because I'm someone that just floats through.

I just wanna have a fun time, which my bank account doesn't love.

Cool. But my dopamine level over

the week does. I just love being with my friends and doing fun

things. So I'm actually not a very exciting one in that

one because every day, I give you the opportunity to have fun. Yep.

But nothing's really planned. So nothing really. I've got go to Pilates, get my

coffee. That's about it. So I probably should Pilates, friends. Coffee.

Coffee. We live in an amazing spot. Yeah. Life is

wow. Are you in the bloody middle of everything? It's dangerous

spot I live in because I live dangerously close to some very good wine bars

and very good pubs, a lot of food. And again, not

great for the bank account. Oh, I find Goldie's up the road. Goldie's is a

good one. Goldie's is good. Been renovated recently. Really? Pretty good. She's been there

for ages, actually. Yeah. We'll have to get down there. You have a great

answer on that one. Because I actually did this. Philosophical of your friends.

Blind. I guess, like, when I was an athlete, you would've had these, like, got

what got you up every day was to be this better athlete every single day.

And then since then, you have to find yourself and figure that out. And I'm

probably living my uni life now,

where you're out just being fun. I don't really want too many,

like, things going on in my life. And I mean, I'm 35. I

really should should be doing that. I know I look 29. I know that's surprising

boys. That's surprising, but no, like I'm 35. I should be more of

an adult. And I do wonder when sometime, when am I going to grow up?

But right now I just love what I'm doing. I think COVID taught

us that we shouldn't be wasting our time doing things we don't really wanna do.

And then I understand. Yeah, exactly. And I've figured out this life where I

can get paid doing what I paid and just get to have an opinion, get

to like, just squawk around. I don't even know. I don't even know what I

do. If someone says, what do you do? I go, I, I dunno. I really

don't know, but here I am, but I have fun. And like I say, if

I have used work as an excuse for not doing something, everyone's like,

I don't believe you. Like, but at the same time, they can't know it because

I'm somewhere stop doing something. So it's not a great answer, but

it's the answer that I I love it. Yeah. I don't I love it. It's

true. Yeah. No. Yeah. And I wish I'd I actually

wish I had, like, this passion and something, but,

like, I don't know. Life's for living. Like, people are so worried

about hustling and doing this shit. I'm like, why? Yeah. Why? I mean, some

yeah. Some people have to. Do you find both of you though, because your life

was so driven for so long, and you're dictated to Mhmm. By both what you

had to do that you're sort of catching up on I went to university.

Like, I was a lost soul for in my twenties. Whereas, you both weren't.

You were Yeah. Sort of living your switched on life then where you were so

structured. So it sort of flipped around. A 100%. Yeah.

That's right. That's it. Isn't it? And I was gonna say, like, that that's the

whole thing. And the the struggle with when you leave professional sport is

like finding that balance or or like being content with what

you're doing almost and finding a bit of purpose in, in like

the mundane almost like because I guess like when you're playing

sport, it's just all set out for you. And it's so, you

know, you barely have a minute to scratch yourself. Really. It's all

planned. It's all in front of you and it's easy to just, you know, one

year goes to the next to the next. And I also think that when you're

an athlete, particularly for us in sports that we're traveling and it's

quite a tumultuous kind of thing, it's like, it's Rocky, it's

really rollercoaster. So everything that can be mundane, you make

even more mundane because everything else is so crazy when you're playing

selection going on. We're traveling a lot. We're in different countries. We're having to do

a whole lot of thing. We're working towards something that is so big, a 2

week thing, every 4 years. Like, can you imagine that? It's crazy.

It's nuts. And so everything else you want to be really boring, whether it's

your food, whether it's what you're doing on the weekend. And so I've gone from

so being so boring. Like, I was never boring, boring,

but like, look, and, oh, God, my God, my partner at at the time, I

feel sorry for him. I would have been a pain in the ass. My family

would have been a pain in the ass because you've got to concentrate on so

many things if you control and you've got to be selfish. You've got to think

of yourself and, oh, no, I've got training tomorrow. I can't go to your graduation

or whatever. I missed weddings. I missed funerals. I missed so many things

and you're so selfish at home, but you have to be so selfless when you're

at training and then you're fighting for spots against your best mates, then

you're being selfish again. And so it's balancing this and you

are going crazy in your mind. So then when you get out of it, it's

weird. We kind of become a new adult again. Like I

genuinely feel like I was like a 20 year old being at 30 and

starting fresh and trying to figure out, all right, what do I like? Where do

I like going? What do I like eating? Do I like drinking? What am I

doing? Where do I want to live? Now I've got this

freedom. Yeah. What do I do with it? You might go crazy and that some

people do. And I mean, I think with footy plays, lesser than

us, but footy plays golf and have kids when they're 25. That's not normal

anymore. They often have these, like, life at 25. They're acting like they're

35 when they're 25, and then they suddenly finish. And it's

a weird thing of starting again as an adult.

And, and, and what I found as well, it's like your,

all your friends and stuff have done 10 years of, whatever it is. I've never

had a real job, man. Exactly. Exactly. So

they're like starting to, you know, grow in their careers. They're starting to

move up higher and we come out at 30, 32. And

we're nowhere. We're at the bottom of the food chain. So I don't know what

do we do here yet. I I know. I feel like, oh, like, I've got

degrees, but I'm like, I never used anything. Like, I'm so useless

and you have like an identity crisis. I'm sure you do. And

it's really weird. And it's one that it's very

unique to people like athletes. I think I like to call them

normal people. I don't know what else to call, call new folks. I'm a

normie. You're in your cities. When you're, when we're traveling and we're

wearing

Like, we're in the army or something. My god. CV. I actually

didn't know what that acronym was, or so I'm just gonna let you guys know.

I don't mind it. I don't mind it. Where was my brain going

with that? I don't know. It's fun being a city. I like being a. I

love being a normal person. I, I actually like by the end of my plan

career, I craved it. And like, to be honest, sometimes I'm like, oh, I'd love

a bit stability, but I'm like, oh, but I'd love 4 months off every summer.

So like, yeah, it can't go like hand in hand. Like the

perks of being an athlete is so high, but the, the lows

are really, you know, and I guess it works out, but I couldn't think of

any less than playing till I was 40 because at some stage that really is

draining and the ledger then gets off of, like, the good versus bad.

But Yeah. It's a weird one. But no. So you start fresh

and you feel like an idiot and you don't hide in the world

and that's weird. It's a weird one. Hey. You found your feet very, very

nicely. I a lot of my mates often give me shit for doing nothing.

You know, I've got my own business and I think I don't work at all.

You know, I'm playing golf on Fridays and whatnot. But where to play?

I'm on the waiting list at PK. What do you, what do you hit off

of? About 6 or 7 at the most. Oh,

awesome. Very nice. I've got a great slice. Do you? Yeah. I

mean, hockey you do you get out and play 18 holes? Or very

rarely. I'm a once a year kind of gal on the 18. 18 is too

long. Oh, yes. It's way too long. 12. Twelve's a really

good number. I completely agree with that. After that, it becomes a chore. But

I've You know, his slice gets worse. Yes. Yes. I I

hit it well. It just loves going right. Good hockey in me, and,

I'm a 5 putt specialist. Oh, 5 putt. Yeah. Tear off with your

pants down after that, mate. Wow. You'd like that,

Jack. Sorry. We're trying to cancel you today. We will. And there it is

again. Sorry. That's just the

boys' golf trip. I gotta be confused there. The boys' club. Yeah. There it

is. No. Okay. Let's go back to the start

because I'm sure everyone that's listening, they've all seen your

beautiful little photo with Sean Wren. Oh, yeah. I wanna go back to the early

days of Georgie Parker. You grew up in Adelaide? You grew up in

Barrie, didn't you? There you go. He's done his solo. Bury, lovely spot. Big

Murray. Great pub. Done a done a few events there and stayed on it.

Have you ever skied? That looks so fast. It's a Crazy.

Near red part. Lovely part of the world. Look, I love berry. Sweet, mate. Just

dropping a few nails. He's just got Wikipedia. Just got Wikipedia. I

actually know where it is, though. 3 hour drive from Adelaide. There you go. I'm

gonna see you. It's a long way away, Jacko. What else do you wanna know?

Yeah. Sorry. You reckon I'll just down with your buddy? You actually know

where these, like, see siblings? So I don't know why. I'm just saying Berry.

I've got a geography. Sorry, George. Berry

is a tiny little town. It is. It's tiny. It's got like 4,000

people. It's small. Yeah. Grew up there. Born in

Adelaide. Grew up there. Dad went back there for working. So there with my

older sisters and then went back to Adelaide for high school, then lived in Perth.

When did you go to Perth? I went to Perth when I was about 20,

21. Yep. Lived there for nearly 10 years. I don't

recommend that. Okay. I I remember you.

I just I like Perth. Yep. No. To go to. No. No. No. I just

love I love your media personality. You say what you want. You

don't give a fuck about what anyone else thinks. But I remember you getting in

strife because you said something about Adelaide or something being boring. I said Perth. I

said Perth. So what I said thrown out the line of this. Was. Yes. Stop.

Adelaide's great. So I

got in trouble because sorry. I feel like I said a Newman here. I'm pointing

at you. You're alright. I said that there was

no one at the Perth test and I love my cricket. The Ashes,

like test cricket for me is like, creme de la creme.

I love it. It is so good. And I was watching the the Perth test,

and there was no one in the crowd. I'm like, guys and I love

Perth. Every day is the same. It's Groundhog Day.

Every day, all year, it's sunny. It's sunny all the time, which is

awesome. It's awesome. It's 30 degrees in May. It's awesome.

So why having fun. Surely. You can have a view. Going to the test. You

can go on a nice day and go to the beach tomorrow. Go to the

cricket. You thought we were gonna be loud. You said, yeah. I agree. Why

it's she she needs to be back at the wacker. I can

stadium's too big. They don't get enough credit. They do for big bash, just not

for the Ashes. They love it. And old Baz, old Barry, yeah,

Bassy Barry Basil's ziplier. Oh, is it? He goes, I disagree with you.

There's plenty to do. I'm just like, man, there's actually nothing, man. I love it.

Talking it was getting canceled. Well well, he called he called me

Georgie Gardner on everyone. Oh, he did. But then he called he said something about

the women's tennis, but then he weaseled his way out of that one. He does.

He gets Yeah. So what was I talking about?

Perth? Perth? I love Perth,

but I wouldn't live there for that long. It's just a little long. It, like,

it's like real Stockholm syndrome. People there like, well, they're very on their edge of

like, oh, you should love bird. That's awesome. Like, yeah, it's pretty cool. But like,

there's also nothing going on, but you got the best weather and you've and you've

die far the best beaches in Australia. Yeah. Easily. And the weather's amazing, but like

you're in the middle of nowhere. You need your own

currency, basically, to be over there. That's how far away it is. Your time zone,

3 hours in summer. Sorry. What? Nothing's around it. So it's

just a little bit far away. Close to Bali. That's good. I

once went to Bali, a $164 return. Jesus.

If you don't mind. That's a bargain. You just fly business almost now. Well

well, sorry. Speak for yourself, mister money bags over there. God,

must be nice. Squash is doing good, isn't it? Squash.

Why are you even doing a podcast? Squash is gonna damn the drone. We've received.

In this city. In another city.

It's gonna be fun to edit for him. Anyway, so No. We're not editing. We

don't know. It's all under date. It's a long time. So I lived in Perth,

and I went to Belgium for a year. We're about to play over there. Went

to Antwerp. Good little town. Spent an hour and a bit out of, been to

Antwerp. It's beautiful. It was a wedding there. That's bizarre. Wow. It's a beautiful

spot. Stunning. Yeah. Gorgeous. Lived there for a year, played hockey for Royal

Antwerp over there and then moved to Melbourne, played for the mighty pies,

played 3 high quality games for us. So Yeah. I did say that. Yeah.

3 pretty high quality. And then, well,

I was fine. I just learning sport at 30 to us, 31 or

something. Broke my foot. It was a big year long thing

with the sesamoids thing, and I was like, what am I doing? I'm earning no

money. They were earning no money. I was like $12,000 contract for a year. I

was like, yeah. Rather go and earn money. And they're working so hard. Like, they

were training like the boys, and they're earning $12 a year. I was like, what

the hell is that all it was? Yeah. And I'm like, what am I doing?

I'd rather go and earn money. Could've bought your berry probably for

more. Pardon? You could've bought your berry for I I would've I could've I could've

been more playing club hockey. So, oh, what am I doing? So,

ended up finishing that and then playing, what am I playing? What am

I doing now? The, I dunno what I'm doing. I'm playing. Now I'm just, I'm

just playing, hanging around and playing. Play life. Yeah.

So it's been a been a journey. So how did you go from

sport and all that? And how did you get your media gigs? And was it

just knock on a lot of doors and finally, was it

an interest of yours? And like, did you seek it out? Sorry for

interrupting you there, Jack. So I I'm used to it with doing a podcast at

this point. I'm getting just I'm sitting in honestly.

No. You you are. You Yeah. I'm a big Florida. I've been really drunk.

So So I

studied when I was playing hockey for Australia, obviously one of the most

brilliant players of my generation. Just actually, I'm gonna interrupt you here just for

our listeners. I'm actually wearing Georgie's gold pin,

her gold Commonwealth Games pin, and she's wearing her gold

medal that she won at the Commonwealth Games. Got a few dents in it, if

you buy it, Mike. There's a few good nights after that one. Yeah. Anyway

Anyway, so I am I am a World Cup medalist, Commonwealth Games Girls medalist, 100

stars. Yeah. 2014. Yeah. You've done

the British. It's very good. Did you watch the replay or No. I just

We competed that way. Yeah. Now I

studied journalism while I was playing, always kind of wanted, I thought

I wanted to work for a club or I didn't, I didn't know what it

was like when I was studying, there was no one in terms of female, no

one for me to watch. I was like, oh, I wanna be Sam Lane. She

was really then, or you can look at Carrie, but she particularly over in Perth,

you're not seeing her much. She not really your style. No. No. She's not.

But there was no groundbreaking though. She oh, absolutely. And so people can say

what they want about Caro as what she says, but in terms

of what she's done for paving the way and in, in

her time, very male dominated. So it's male dominated now, let alone back

then. So there was no one really I could watching it. Oh, I'd love to

be like this one or this one or this one. Like it was, it's not

really thought of someone. Oh, I wouldn't be like Sam, Lane, really not seeing anything

else, but then then I was studying and I was doing work experience. I'm like,

and then once I got into a club, I'm like, I don't really want to

work for a club. I thought what I thought was working for a club

is very different to what being in a club was like, where sponsors

reign through when it's the players welfare, probably not at the

front of mind. They pretend it is, but I don't necessarily think it

is. I think that if, if you're good enough, they'll look

after you. If you are not where, if you're not in that band, it's kind

of like, well, sponsors actually win right now. So you Money money

men. Yeah. And you can, every club, you can see

that kind of behavior from clubs. So I've allowed, I don't really wanna be

working for a club. I didn't want to

be. A journalist that's going ruining lives at door

stopping and people's. And I was like, fuck that. Not very, no, like I'm

already not liked. Imagine, imagine if you're one of them, a

female standing in front of the club. My God.

So that, that didn't interest me. And so I

just, every single time I had a break in training, I would get over

to Melbourne. So I, I was earning no money playing hockey for Australia either, by

the way, but I'd get myself over sleep on people's couches,

do as much free work experience as I could just be as

annoying as I could. And when you knock on as many doors as you do,

suddenly finally opens and you get a go. And then

at that point, I was getting jobs in Melbourne, but getting paid,

well, $500 for a job return flights, $800 on down

300, but you're getting yourself. Yeah. Experience

experience on air. You're flying out as your, head in front

of the people making the decisions. And so I,

then it was a very deliberate choice to play for Collingwood

because how many Fremantle players are

making media in Melbourne? No one. So

Pav Pav could, but Pav also can be the big dog in Perth,

but no one's really doing that here. So I was a deliberate choice to play

for the biggest club in the country in all sports, really, I

think. I don't think many people would disagree with that, that there's any bigger

clubs in Australia. Look at how many numbers watched and went to their games last

year. Exactly. And how much money they're making. You're heading at the time Eddie McGuire

was the president. So it was a very deliberate choice to play

for them and then leverage off the Collingwood,

brand. I mean, it's, it's a hard industry. It's,

there's some years you're having, you're flying and I'm

not, not working for a week, but then there's times where

it's, it's really busy and exciting. So it's just a really

tough industry. It's a very wanted to be in industry. Yep.

So I think that's a good question. That hard because I do

similar. Like, I travel around talking. And when you're busy, you're

busy. But at the moment, I've got a few quiet weeks, and you start telling

yourself stories. And you The narrative in your head when I shouldn't even be worried.

There's nothing to worry about. I'm like, I'm not doing anything. Yeah. Like, my self

worth. Yeah. It's really hard. And people, like, like,

scoff at you when you like, say like you're busy or whatever. Like,

it, it can be so busy at once. And, and I've gotta remember, well,

sometimes you don't get a day off for a month. Like things that it,

it's a very different job and it's a, it's a scary job

because you sometimes go, oh yeah, cool. I'm, I'm sorted

until December. And then you go, well, I don't know what my next year looks

like. And I guess a lot of people have jobs like that, but probably

not to the same extent. And you've gotta manage your

money better. You've got it because you, 1 month you might earn 4 months worth

work in 1 month. And then suddenly you gotta figure that out. So it's a,

it's not getting ahead of yourself. That'd be dangerous for me. Yeah. My

accountant loves going Georgie, maybe you should put some more in your

super. Wouldn't have thought so, Julian, but thank you. We live in the living

room. I go, Julian, my retirement plan is

either inheritance or death. Oh, death. Thank you. So don't worry about

me. What is it now? It's one or the other. You

think I wanna lift 1, matey? God, you don't know my lifestyle. God

damn. That'd be hell. I don't want the money then.

God, no. Anyway, so, it is, it is scary.

It's but it's exciting and it's cool. Every, every

job you do is different. I've never gone to the same job feeling

comfortable, which is kind of, I guess, back into that athlete life and you crave

that kind of like thrill and excitement from what you're doing. So

I love it. I love the job as much as I hate it, but

I'd rather do this and work a 9 to 5 for some schmuck, like an

owner of squash or something. That is not So do

you find, like, I guess because of your, you know, your

nature and it's you're pretty easy going and you're you're not going to

like tell everyone, oh, yeah, my job's really hard. Like that's,

that's why a lot of people scoff at you. And if you say, oh, I'm

busy or whatever, like they go, whatever, like, you know, yeah. And

it's like, it's hard because like, I don't know. I find that too. Like,

I'm not, I'm not gonna like go talking about my how hard I'm working

every day and blah blah blah. But people take that as like, oh, he must

have it easy or he's doing nothing, you know? And it's like, why do we

worry so much though? Why do we worry? But it's even

when you play and that's, and you've probably carrying that in from when you

played into post career, because I've, I think there would be

either so much depression or undiagnosed, fresh and playing footy

or sport in general, because people feel as though, well, I can't

complain about this. Like, this is the best job ever. I'm getting paid,

particularly as a male athlete all around the world. I'm getting paid 100

of 1,000, if not 1,000,000 of dollars to play a

a game. And it's that whole thing of like, this is the most

important, non important thing in the world. Like, it's not important if you win a

footy game. Supporters think it is. Brands think it is. The club

think it is. You at the time think it is, but it's not really, it's

not important. Like, but we all think it is. It builds up in us.

And so you are running around being fit, being healthy, hanging around with your

best mates. You can't, how dare you complain about this life? So,

so you shut it off and keep it in and then you've, why am

I sad? Why am I having a panic attack on the way to training? I

shouldn't be feeling like this. And that kind of carries into this sort of world

as well. Like, I can't complain about this. Like, oh, I don't wanna MC that

thing. Georgie people you're getting paid the same as someone for a month's work for

that. Get over it, you know? And so you've gotta then battle with yourself of

like, what am I allowed to complain about? What's fair, what's

reasonable. What can you push aside? That's

actual anxiety or sadness as opposed to what isn't,

if that makes sense. So it's a funny one because it's, it's a very, what

I do now, it's very similar to that aspect of it's not everyone can do

it. People think they can do it. People might DMS think they can do it.

Oh, what you just sit there. Okay, cool. You get in front of it and

tell me. Right. So they think they can do

it, but they can't like, not everyone can do this. Not everyone has the

insight. Not everyone at all. People at least realize not everyone they could

well, they think they can maybe hit a 15 meter chest mark, but they can't.

But they they it not everyone can do it, so you feel

guilty for complaining about it. But it doesn't mean that's not there Yeah.

Either. Yeah. No. I, I remember, like very good

point. Very good point. I enjoyed that. Definitely. I'm

not just an idiot. No. That was a thing. I did have

that. Are you just an idiot? Well, I'm very

not just an idiot. So Georgie,

when we first started sort of chatting and whatnot, a lot of it, I

remember on Instagram, you would put up these, you know,

fucking fat white old males. Usually with Doritos crumbs on their

chest. Doritos crumbs on their chest. Picture of them with a fish usually

go to They've caught a fish, whatever. And but and so I'm

interested to know and like you'd be you put it up and you'd say, oh,

you know, thanks, Craig or whatever. Like, good to know that you

know your shit or whatever. And I would be like, don't fucking

listen to them. Blah blah blah. And I know that you're like, I know you're

gonna say that. No. I was just putting up for funny stuff. But did

it, you know, it doesn't fucking it must frustrate you and piss you

off at some stage when old mate is, you

know, and and and I guess that leads into being a female in a

male dominated thing where all these old fucking white guys think that they know

everything. And anyway, you discuss.

It's,

mostly it's fine. Mostly my empathy comes out for them

rather than just very female of you. I

go, fuck these losers. I feel, I actually feel sorry for them.

Like people who are loved and cared for and happy with

themselves and they're not gonna be content with their life.

Aren't DMing a random girl they've ever met,

that I'm an idiot for, or firstly, not even listening or

reading what I've written or said, just angry because they're angry against

the world. So I feel really sorry for them. Yeah. And so that comes out

foremost doesn't mean that there's times where you just go like fucking, just like I

mute 7 AFL. Like, you're muted. I don't get to see anything with you because

once I put it, you put a video off of yourself and suddenly it's all

the losers there talking. So you protect yourself in a way.

And there's times we just go, just not gonna go on in,

on Instagram or thingy, anything today because all you I'm, I'm very

big at tweeting and or whatever posting on X and then muting. I'm

very good at that. I love it. They, but I

just, I feel sorry for them. And I, and I'm sad because

there's so much they're missing in the world, but it's kind of like yelling

if you are a labor voter and you're yelling at the far right

voter, they're never gonna listen to you. So it's not worth

it. It's to go to the middle ground. And I think that's what, I think

women's sports in general sometimes miss they,

worrying about that. Those ones who are never gonna watch you, you are not

the swinging voter anyway. You're not, I'm not worried about you. You're never

going to, you're always going to hide on it no matter what the data

says. Yeah. And they'll never wanna listen to the data. They wanna

listen to their feelings before going before someone going, oh, well,

look at all these numbers of people watching women's sports. You just have to go

watching Caitlin Clark in America to see that at the moment. But people

go, won't listen to that or see that they

still only wanna go off their feelings. Like, well, no one wants to watch it

anyway. Well, okay. So there's no point, there's no point worrying about them.

There's no point. It's the middle one. And I think most of them are either

reasonable or if you call them out or apologetic because then they're embarrassed

because it's not normal. I think that's like 99% of them. If you

call them out and you got them, like, in front of a camera or if

you got them, if you got them, if you got them face to face, if

you got them face to face, every single one of them would go. I'm really

sorry. I didn't really do it. I know. That's the problem there. Weak as

piss. Oh, the He makes me sick. I'd get I just can't have it.

Mhmm. Like, no one's got any right to do that. I had a friend today's

reply to my story because I put one up today. And he goes,

I'm gonna have to mute you at some stage because you're hating me. You're making

me hate blokes. And I'm just like, I'll just go, this is how I know

sexual sexuality isn't a choice because my god, why would I choose to date you

guys? But I do, unfortunately. And he's just like, I don't

know how you do it. But in and I think most reasonable men And there's

not exactly. It's not everyone, but, you know, we don't help make But that's pulling

up the on ourselves. Your world. You need social media

to do what you do, and that is your voice. And that's why you are

able to do what you do. But then the trade off Totally. You have to

deal with that. And so I thought that's not fair, though. Well, I think what's

worse, and I think it's it's the same as you when you are playing. If

a random guy messages you saying, oh, you fucking sock, you cost me

a multi year. I don't really care if your teammate said something to you like,

Hey mate, you weren't good enough in that match. That's when it hurts. Yeah. Same

kind of principle here is when I see people in the industry

being sex or misogynistic or deliberately turning a

blind eye to poor behavior. That for me is more

upsetting than the random guy with a picture of, of

Ford XR. Is that a car? Ford X,

Ford XR. You very specific, Jordan,

if you got someone in mind. I got an.

Just trying to create a, an image. What

was another flight?

Countless times where you just look around a room and you

go. Any chance, one of you

stepping in here? Because you feel like you're fighting this fight by yourself so often

when you're literally the only female in a room. You're literally had that like

several times. Multiple times. You probably still do. Yeah. Yeah. You

know, I I had a guy go, oh, oh, I thought I'd be so

bad. I wouldn't watch. I'd rather watch my parents have sex and watch the AFL

w it's that bad. And then 8 men start laughing. Like, awesome. That's

great. I'm the only woman that's sitting there and it took him 3 days to

apologize only because somebody told him to said, because you would have said it

someone to someone else or whatever. Yeah. That's why we wanted to call that out.

We've spoken a lot about this and then All we need to do is go

The moment you laugh back, you're just as bad. Exact exactly. And you're isolating

one person and I'm I'm not someone that's like need you to go

and this is to any man that's listening. You don't wanna be the the guy

that goes, oh, actually, that is very sexist. And blah blah blah. You just

need to go, oh, man. Shut up. Yeah. So all you need to do is

not laugh. Yeah. And they go, oh, that's embarrassing. You don't have to be

this big righteous person. Anyway, so

back to the initial point is that I think that female.

What, where, what was the initial? How do you, the XR 6 you know.

It lost it. I think that, I think

that females anyway, this is my brain. Welcome.

Yeah. Wednesday. Yeah. Proper ADHD brain. I

tell you what. I lost my phone today. Found it in a linen cupboard. So

that's so Folding nicely, though. Welcome.

Folding nice. That's really funny. Oh, thank you.

I think I think that, women's sporting fair, fans and

bodies are doing themselves a disservice by chasing the wrong fans. I think they're the

one not worth it. It's the middle ground. Yep. Absolutely. But do you That's

Sorry, Jack. You got it? No. You got it. Okay. Do you think

they just wanna grow the game and they think it doesn't matter who it is

they wanna get on board? Like, or they just try on all avenues. Like, is

it just the new? Like Well, yes and no. But that's like me trying to

sell you a hair straightener. You know? Used to have a GHT back in the

day. You used to straighten the walls. You know? It's Probably not at the moment.

DJ ing days? Yes. Correct. I I I sorry.

I did drive an XR6 car. Oh, that is. Uh-oh.

I got I'm a bit nervous and you'll say that before.

Not very good on the socials, Diaz, but I did have an XR 6.

White. White. Super. Enough of

me on me. I don't even know why that came out. I don't need a

straight rope. Fishy rod in the back. As much

as I I completely think that if you like

sport, if you like that sport, you should like both versions of that. And that's

why I guess AFL shot themselves in the foot early on because we're so,

like parochial about what teams we follow. So there's no Hawthorne in there. Well, I'm

not gonna follow Hawthorne because I don't follow Hawthorne. So I think they shot themselves

in the foot to begin with, but I still think that there's gonna be men

who never gonna be on board. So don't bother with them. And then,

yeah, you wanna get the casual fan, but you wanna get the casual fan that

is interested. Otherwise, you're talking to a, a brick wall,

and it's just wasting time, wasting energy, creating angst

that then can spread. Like, that type of behavior is so cancerous. Right? What

frustrates me is like, I I don't think ever I

I get what you're saying. Like, if you like the game, you should like both

sides. I don't if they don't like that, it's fine. But it's it's more like

you don't why do they feel the need to tear it down and

bring it? It's like, but they don't give it the option. That's that's my problem.

Like, go and watch and enjoy. And and And

actually if if you go and watch and you actually, like, actually give

it time and then you still have that opinion, like, I would be very

surprised that any guy that goes and actually gives it the time to go and

watch these women putting their fucking bodies on the line. Like, they go because they

go hard. Harder than I ever went. Like, no. I'm fine. Put your head around

this. I put their feet. Put my head somewhere, but not not over the ball.

I can tell you. And, but, yeah, it's like It's

I think that's what frustrates me. Yeah, exactly. It's the, hey, it's same as yelling

at me when you haven't read what I've said. Yeah. Read what I'm saying. And

then I've, I've a conversation with me. I'm not saying I actually, of course you're

not going to, everyone's not going to agree with everything I say, but have, you've

got to have an opinion to have an opinion on what I'm saying. You have

to have read it, a bit of education and knowledge on the top. And I

think you only need to go and watch things like the Matildas and the

success there of like, oh, actually, no. We do like this. And there's

been countless studies all over the world. There's this one in Austria, which I find

fascinating, where they made these groups of people watch,

a game of football. Right? And so the scores were 4 nil in both

games. They made them like stick figures in 2 games. Right?

A men's match and a women's match, both the same score line. As stick

figures, these games, they liked the women's game more. Then they went and made

them watch the games in real people. What

do you think they liked more than men? So if you're not like,

and there's been countless versions of these kinds of things. Have you seen that, that,

promo ad? For the French TV. It's the same principle,

right? Where this, we were built in to be sexist before

we've even given it a chance. And so people go in with this, oh, they

can't do that. They can't do that. And you know, it's the same,

oh, I get told, oh, you're pretty funny for a girl. You don't need to

say that. You've got you're pretty funny. Thanks for a girl. Oh, okay.

What a back backhand. It's the same thing. Wow.

Like I didn't know, being funny was gender specific.

It's crazy. And so it's, it's this gender bias that we buy

into a society it's, it's wild. And so I,

I get, you get sick of it. Yeah. It it's a

big, yeah. Well, you've just gotta see past that at the moment and, and

it's changing and it's not gonna change overnight. Yeah. We know that. And I think

I'm quite understanding of that. But Yeah. There's just

yeah. I think there's a lot of roadblocks that get put up in front of

us, and we're continually navigating around that. But you just get sick of navigating

when it's so unnecessary. Yeah. Doesn't it happen? You keep growing up in the country

because I was a little boy. Have you seen me? I've never saw you, Beth.

Get the Get the girl. Get the girl out of there. I know. I know.

I know. This boy is getting it out of Volcan. Nothing wrong with Volcan. Uh-uh.

Do you think growing up in the country? Like, my question, I think country people

are different. Shepherd and Lloyd. Shepherd and Heath. 3630. Oh,

yeah. Postcodes. Oh, yeah. Do you think that has been a catalyst

to, you know, the way you're able to handle all this and probably been able

to handle it in the industry that you're in now, Georgia? Because like Yeah. Not

everybody could sit here exactly like you are and be so, as you said,

empathetic about things that shouldn't happen because Jack and myself

don't have to deal with that. No. People say I'm funny and that they stop

there. Not often. No. Do they? No. They don't.

So This one is one of my favorite ones. Have you

seen that one? We're just

looking at a photo where Georgie look.

That is incredible. That's like my hair cutters. Hair cutters.

I gotta look like you. Yeah. So when I was I was 8, and I've

done set. This is a, this is a fresh one for, I got sent this

on my birthday the other day. Thanks for saying happy birthday. Oh, and

I've got my crows Guernsey there on a, on a little

Teddy crows Guernsey at number 52 in the back. Sean ran favorite of all time.

I knitted bananas in pajamas, which is so nineties at hers.

A, a bowl cut. You could mistake me for

Jim Carey and dumb and dumber. Yeah. I, I went in, I wanted my

haircut like Sean wren because he was my favorite player. And my mom

goes, how about, how about Tony mantra? I'm like, I

go, would you rock rocking a bit of Tony Modra? And I go Oh, God,

you're hot. And I go, oh, he should've got God, bro. He's still hot. And

I just go and I go, oh, mom's like, what about

Tony Mort? I'm like, no. Sean ran. And I'm like, like, yeah. Sean ran. No

Clippers. So I always

wanted to be, I wanted to be boy because boys gotta do the fun things.

Yeah. And at least now they're not doing them. But I, I think being a

little boy for a little period there, I got to experience like what the fun

things I got to do. And I guess I just carried that tomboy mentality

forever. I've never been pushed around. I'm their youngest kid.

I'm stubborn as all hell. I think I'm, I'm smart

enough to be, as I said, I'm not just an idiot. I'm smart

enough to be educated in what I'm talking about. And I think people

underestimate that. So then I I'll go, okay, well actually, and hit them

with some facts and then they, they stutter or they, then they,

once you get. They're probably used to people backing down or people

just, you know, I'll buy it. I'm like, no, sorry. I'm not, I'm not,

I'm fighting this fight and I'm, I've lost jobs for standing

up for myself and for, I guess,

women in general. I'm just like, I don't need you. What your morals are though?

Yeah. Exactly. You need to know. And and you'll lose jobs. And

like, it's actually really empowering when you feel like you're in a position to do

that. And I'm probably, I am privileged in the sense that I can, because I

know that I'm always going to be okay. I've got a lovely family and I'm

educated and I'm white and that helps. And there's all these things

that mean that I'm privileged enough to be in this position. So so I wanna

use it correctly. And so, yeah, I, I think

there's nothing worse than being silent in so many of these things.

And if people can't do it, that's, I completely understand if they feel they

can't talk, talk out and there is many

reasons why you can't, and there'll be, there's been reasons there's been times where I

haven't been able to as well. But I think if you

feel as though you can, you just have to like nothing gets changed and then

I can't, how dare I complain if I'm not wanting to

help the change and like talking out probably like

makes it, it's almost makes you accountable. Like, when you're vocal about something,

especially publicly, then you gotta leave it, don't you? Like, really, you know I I

say you gotta go watch women's sports. Well, I've gotta go then watch that and

invest my time and energy and money into that as well. So, yeah, that

keeps you accountable. It means that you're risky,

but I think everything I do is calculated. A to the point of playing for

Collingwood, everything I'm doing, like I know what I'm doing. I never crossed the line.

But I also don't think. The reason why I never cross, I can't be honest,

probably say everything I think, but I think my morals, and never crossed

that line anyway. So I probably don't really need to filter it that much.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not as if you've got all these crazy thoughts that you're

like holding back. It's like, no. It's not. I'm not thinking like Sam Newman and

having to give my version. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking like what I think any

progressive young woman should be thinking. Yeah. In this

industry. Yeah. Maybe I don't, I mean, speaking

very broadly, but that's what I think. And so I never really

have to water down what I'm thinking, and I think that

gives me an edge in some women because I feel as a lot of women

in this industry feels all they can be is a pretty face, a

host that doesn't actually have an opinion. Tell me how many people

on women in the AFL media actually are talking opinion.

You've got Cath Laughlin. She's a host. Where's her opinion. You got Sarah Jones. That's

an opinion. Abby Holmes. She's on the boundary. That's not an opinion where

where Daisy's left. She's not really doing much media. Aaron

Phillips, the best we've had as a female is still on the boundary.

Where's that? Where's the opinions and not an opinion of what you're seeing

on a game. Where are they on the panel? Yeah. The

panel actually going well, do you know what I think is gross X,

Y, Zed, which I did. I don't know. I take that job very seriously and

I'll always be doing that because you need opinions from more

than just a bunch of guys that played in the nineties. My God. You played

in the forward line. If you look at it now, it's sort of exactly the

same opinion and point of view. Mhmm. How does it change

fucking it's like I just I can't fit into that world, Jack. I hope you

watch. I don't I can't watch it. There's shows that I'm watch able now,

because it's all the same. What am I learning from 360 at the moment? Who

used to love it? You're having a guy yell at the mic and then whitely

trying to be measured in what he is doing and asking questions. But why do

I care what Mike thinks? Anyway, it's very, it's an interesting

landscape as a woman. Are there any benefits? Are there any

positives? Are there any, you know, like for talking for being a woman,

for being a woman in the, in that male dominated industry. I

love when you finally get cut through with the people around

you or with your people that are listening to you. Having that cut through,

it's it's like getting a PB in after off season. You go,

finally, some work paid off. All your hard work and Yeah. And you go

struggles and Oh, finally you're listening. Oh, it's worked and all you're

putting a new skill and you finally get it into that game. It's like, oh

my God, finally, it's actually worth it. And then it reminds you, oh, cool.

Things are changing people. And I think the last.

24, 12 to 24 months, 12 to 18 months, I think has been really different.

I think post matures was huge. Mhmm. I think the

development of a 4 w in general, I think, has still got a long way

to go. I'm I'm not biased. Women's cricket women's cricket. Women's

pioneers. 90,000 for the final of the g. Exactly. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. It's yeah. I I think when you see that and you even

to be honest, just the shifting in conversations

that you're around and, and like I said, like, I get a lot of hate

in my DMS. I don't really care about them, but I'm mostly, I also get

a lot of like really nice people who do go, oh god.

Like, I really love this and I love that. And this person's awesome. And so

when you're seeing all that, like, it does make it with the side little wins

that you're getting along the way. You have to say that. I try and like

that something I try to do because I remember, you know, like when I was

going through, you know, I was copping plenty of shit and

yeah. And, but like the little the little moments where people

do actually reach out and give you positive stuff, it actually like

They stick with you more. And they stick with you and they they're so meaningful.

And so, like, I really try to do that now, like, because it's so easy

not to send the message. It's so easy. Like, we all have those thoughts. Like,

I've see something that you've put up and I'm like, fuck. Yeah. Like, go you,

you know, I love that piece or I love what you're saying there, but I

don't say anything or, you know, we all, it's it's so easy to let it

slide where it's just like a 2 second. Hey. That was fucking awesome. I'm

like, good on you. And I know it means a lot. I'm all for that.

Like, I'm this massive hot queen. Like if I like your shirt, I'm like, oh

my God, I fucking love your shirt. Oh my God. Your hair looks great. Or

like, Oh, is this new? Oh, you've been working? Like I, I am

this massive hot person even to randoms. Like, I'll be like to the

barista. I'm like, oh, your makeup looks great. Like, because we need more of that.

And like you said, like a random, so nice. It's so

nice. But he's he's tell you a funny story about

him. Oh my god. No. No. Jack's face just dropped.

No. It's so funny because he's talking about, like, oh, and I never

say anything. I had somebody like say, it was my friend

who, my friend messaged me and I, I, and he

was joking. He's one of my best mates and he's like, yeah, but fuck off.

You C U N T. But he was like, one of my best mates. That's

how we speak. And, and I put it up and I'm like, oh, can't please

everyone or something. And then it was actually one of his best mate's

brothers. And he goes he messaged his mate and he goes

mate, maybe you should tell your brother that he's up here. Right at him. Tell

tell your brother that he's up. And he goes, oh, no. They're best mates.

This is a gag. But you put you didn't put it

up like a gag. And I love that. Jack Oven. But you know

what? Art of gold. If it's Labrador. That's what you need. You need

people going, if you see the bad behavior, call it out. Talk about

that, Chago. You're the goat. Oh. Oh, it was

so funny. Oh, it was a bit of a mess. That's a bit of a

nice. How nice is that though? So call out bad behavior and say nice things

when you think it. I think God, we could die tomorrow. This is literally my

mentality. I've got a couple of a couple. It all works out. And if

not, you've got a good story. Yep. Like everything works out. Nothing actually

matters. 2, could die tomorrow. Might as well enjoy what we're doing. Right?

I could literally die tomorrow. Live my life. I alright. Here's a funny little

story. That's why you don't put money in your suit for everyone.

Right, Julian. Thanks, Julian. Funny.

This is a little bit morbid, but that's okay. I used to have, like, when

I was more morbid than my retirement plan? When I was like this is

like literally when I was 10, I reckon. I used to have like panic attacks

about the world and life never ending. Queen's

birthday much?

Can you let me finish? No. And

no. You haven't seen my winner in front of 80,000 on Pete's birthday, redemption

day.

Jack. Jack. I saw an entrance. I had to take it. Now go, mate.

You're funny. Think before you go. Oh, I didn't say I didn't say

it. No. I had panic attacks when I was young about, like, life. It's hard

to explain, but, like, just the fact that there's no ending. Like, even if the

earth blows up and all human race is gone, like, the galaxy and lot

It's too overwhelming to think about. It's so it's and I just I would ruminate

and then it would go bang, and I'd fucking panic. And then I just said

I just said, we're so insignificant. Like, from when I was about 15 years old,

I said, I've got to 15. Anything from here is a bonus.

Like, life life for me. Candy. And and I

think from that point on, it that has helped me, like, do and just have

fun in life. I I was just saying that's why. Yeah. No, no, legit. I

think ever, I, I love that you

found that moment. I assume I'm not a similar moment, but I had a moment

where I'm like, fucking nothing matters. I was actually playing in a hockey game where

a girl got hit in the head and she ended up dying on the field.

Fuck. And ever since that moment, I go, this is a

game of hockey. Nothing matters. Real Phil Hughes

style. Right? Yep. Wow. And you go, what am why am I worrying about? What

am I worrying about? Fucking not hitting a goal? Why does any of this matter?

It's all like, it doesn't mean I wanna fucking die tomorrow. Of course not. But

it means that you could go out today and you actually don't know

anything else. So why are we hating on each other? Why are you hating on

yourself? Don't do things you don't like doing. Don't be with

people you don't like being with. Don't live somewhere you don't want to because

otherwise this thing that's not guaranteed, you've got

to enjoy what you're doing. And so that was a really sobering moment for

me. And so, and I don't want people to live through something like

that to have that moment, but you're right. This is

everything from tomorrow's a bonus. And now if that's a bonus, so my God.

Be happy with what you're doing. It's interesting like that. We need

those reminders though. Isn't it? It's like Yeah. And death is a big reminder.

Yeah. I don't, mate. Like, yesterday passed away. And it's

it's, what, like and you have all these

stresses in your life, these little things that, you know, sort of get to you

and and something like that happens and you go, fuck what? None of

that matters, but how do you keep that sort of

perspective and, you know, in your perspective

is really hard and I think gratitude leads into perspectives that being

thankful and grateful for what's around you. But perspective is

really, it's really easy to lose and really hard to find, I think,

because we're so inherently selfish Yep. That

we think that everything that we're doing is the most important thing in the

world. And nothing nothing you and I are

doing is important. You even less so.

I'm joking. I'm just

a Sydney Sydney with the controls.

I enjoyed that. Yeah. Yeah. I think perspective is really

easy to lose and every now and then you just need to go, oh my

God. Yeah, exactly. And I hope that it's not something as

significant as a death for you to remember that or

someone being sick or like, it's like, you think I'm, I'm

grateful that I can breathe really easily until you get a stuffy nose. You're like,

fuck you nose. You know, it's the same thing, like cloudy days for

sunny days, all these things. So you've just gotta remember, and I think being great,

grateful for what you're doing, like I'm very, very hot on gratitude.

I think it makes you enjoy what you're doing. It makes you being proud of

what you're doing. It makes you do a good job of what you're doing. If

you're grateful for it, because then you're preparing correctly. Like knowing

where your guests grew up and things like

that. So like, you know,

but there, there, I think gratitude leads into perspective, which I think

leads into a, a little bit of a nicer,

eye on the on your life and where we sit. Well, gratitude

is essentially allowing you to be present and remind you of the things Mhmm. You

have. I think when we we're caught up in the past, you can't control that.

Yeah. That's where stress normally occurs, and anxiety is a future where it may need

to not even happen. So being grateful really aligns you back in the present,

and that's all you can control. Exactly. You do a lot of that with your

work. Well, that's what I do. Yeah. So talk about that. Mhmm. And that's all

you can really control is the current moment. Yeah. We get so caught up in

living not in the moment, and that's why we're not mindful because we're not present

and we worry about all these other things that may not occur or may not

happen. Yeah. So essentially being grateful allows us to come back to that. Yeah. I'm

so hot on that. It's one of my most important things that I teach in,

like, all the young kids in my nieces and nephews to be grateful. And

that doesn't mean that you allow bad things because you should be

grateful that you're doing this. That means that in, in a bigger

picture sense. Cause I think if you're not then striving for things to

change, then of course that's, that leads to harm. But do you do

like, do you sort of practice it? Cause it's easy to say, like, be grateful,

but how do you actually do that on a day to day basis? Good question.

And I, I, I'm not one of these mindful people, but I think I

live my life like it in, in, because I don't have many

stresses, external stresses, really, in my life of patches where I'm really

stressed. But, like, in my day to day, I don't. So I feel as though

I don't need to be so conscious of it, but I completely appreciate that

my life is not the normal Mhmm. Life.

Yeah. So that's hard to do. But we did mindfulness when we're playing

sport. Yeah. You do a million of them, don't you? It's like

some of them stick for 10 weeks. Some of them sick for 10 days and

then Yeah. But it's hard to oh, yeah. I think what you do though

by being aware of people and giving them compliments Yeah. That is essentially

a form of gratitude and mindfulness because you're present with that person and

you get that hit of dopamine off them knowing what you've done. Yeah. I get

I'm real selfish in that sense. Like, I'm a real gift giver, and it's like,

oh, you're just so giving. I'm doing this today. Literally, I say that. I'm like,

I get so much dopamine from seeing your face when I've now had a present.

I'm like, here, happy birthday present 3 weeks early.

Like Yeah. I get so much dopamine from that. So it's actually selfish in

a way, but you get good selfish should best. Exactly. Exactly. I

like you get your dopamine, how you get your dopamine. And so,

yeah, I, I think I'm, I think I'm pretty present, in saying that,

like, fuck my, sometimes my anxiety can be crazy, but

then when you have your good people around, which I think you surround yourself by

living the way I live, you get back pretty quickly. It doesn't last for

long. Like, you're not immune to that. You're not immune to being sad or being

anxious. But you can surround yourself with

by people that make those periods last for a shorter period of

time. Yeah. Now what about so I've

seen your your boyfriend on your Instagram with this beautiful dog. Well, that's,

we just puppy sit that dog, my friend. What? Where is it? I was

like, like, where is this dog? I need to get this dog, this cuddle.

That's one of my best friends from school's dog and we

borrow it. But to the point that she,

every time she goes away, I request to look after this dog. But

one weekend she went away and I was like, hey, what are you up to

today? She's like, oh, we're in the grandpies or something. I'm like, woah, where's Charlie?

She goes, oh, we gave it to some other people. And I went I said,

sorry. Sorry. Excuse me? I went to Yarrville and got this dog.

No. You didn't. No. You didn't. Yeah. I was like, I'm

sorry. This is actually my dog sitting dog.

It's a, it's a beautiful dog. Oh, he's the most perfect dog of all time.

Oh my god. Like, Yeah. To the point that he's this beautiful border collie and

walking on the street, and he didn't have his lead on. He weren't far from

home. And he's perfect to the point you just look at him, it just stops

and drops. And there was someone with a border collie across the road, and they

looked at him, and their dog was going a bit crazy. And they just we

heard them go, see, that's what you could be like.

That's so sad. Maybe if you train. Yeah. They don't

just come like that. Knock straight out of the box.

I want a well trained one, please. Oh, that's that. Mine's

defaulted. That's a bit disappointing. I know. I know. I

really want a dog, but I, I'm Blast armor. Yeah.

I'll get one of them. You wanna do it when you're ready. Yeah. I also

don't want an asshole dog and me, the person I, think I'll get an

asshole one. So I need to be in a position to And you'll probably compare

it to guys Charlie. Oh, no. Well, she this girl is actually like,

we really want another dog, but we can't because we we know we

will not get it better than this dog. It's like it's like why my

parents stopped at me, not at my older 2 sisters.

Oh, yeah, Georgie. We've got something we've got something we'd like to finish

with. Yeah. Thinking about thinking about everything. Growing up in Berry, getting Sean

ran haircuts, living in Perth, you may not have loved that much. More importantly,

playing over a 100 games of Euros all around the world. Winning Commonwealth

Gold, World Cups, all these different things out. In the media, being

at the forefront playing 3 amazing games for Collinwood. Hold up

that medal. What are you most proud about from your journey so far? From that

bowl cut to where you are right now. Mate, puberty?

No, that was no razor on the shoulder.

I, I'm very proud of being able to play.

Footy. Like there's so many things. There's so many, because my life is set

into really big different, segments. Yeah. It's really

hard because comparing like my 3 high quality games to Collingwood, but

learning a sport at 30, I'm so proud of my, how fit

I got and how professional I was there and being able to play

and do that. Like when you go and play hockey was growing up.

It was, you know, unconscious for you. You could just do it easy. Yeah,

exactly. And I could rely on my talent when I played

hockey. I'm like, fuck, I can't rely on that when I'm playing footy. So I'm

gonna make sure I'm really fit. So really high question to answer. I

think I'm most proud of in terms of.

Career stuff in terms of how I approach my

career stuff. I'm always easily the

nicest, easily the like,

Easiest to work with. I, I go about at a really nice way. I know

what I do. I prepare. I'm really proud of how I hold myself

and speak for it. You're not screwing people over and again. Yeah. Yeah.

Essentially seek for a whole population of people. I'm really proud of

that. Footy. I'm just proud of fucking playing a game. My God

hockey.

Hockey is a weird one because you've got these achievements and you should be like,

oh, playing for the Olympics and all those kinds of things. But I think how

purse, how much I persevered when I played hockey. It I joke

about being one of the most brilliant players of my generation, but talent wise, I

was there, but it was it was a slog. It was really hard. And so

my perseverance, when you could have easily just gone, fuck, this is too hard, throw

this in the bin. So I think it's not necessarily moments, it's

behaviors, consistency and doing it over a long

period of time. And having to give up a whole lot

of things. It's, it's one thing doing it in a footy seat

is I can't even try to stress the difference it is from a footy season

to the stress of playing international sport. It's a

completely different kettle of fish. And I think, more

tiring. It's, more draining. It's so much

harder, and you're getting yourself ready for something that you may not

happen in terms of the Olympics. So I missed out on

2012. You ate 4 years to maybe to

maybe be fit enough For 2 weeks. To be fit enough, you've gotta get

your body right. You've gotta be injured a week out like Exactly. Exactly.

So That's giving me anxiety, man. Exactly. You you get

injured in a prelim in footy, you've got another one. You you play

the next season. And this is why Well, Summer the Olympics Summer didn't play a

a single final, Georgie. So No. I played a few Queen's birthday show. No. I

had a few nightmares. I didn't bring that up. I was

just echoing with something I heard earlier. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean,

it's not probably a moment it's behaviors. And I think that's, well, that's how you

wanna Very good. How you wanna remember. Just be remembered by. I don't

know where I really give a shit if I wanna know or not. No. But

they go, oh, god. She was really nice. Yeah. At

your funeral, no one's saying she's a gold medalist. No. Like, just like

a legend and she's Yeah. That's part of you. Like, it's part of

you. But I remember when we didn't meddle in Raya, I'm like, oh,

so embarrassed. I was like, well, no one actually, none of my friends actually care.

Like, cool. You've got something else to lose. Like I said, I I don't even

know where my World Cup medal is. Like, doesn't actually matter. It's a nice thing

to Commonwealth You know what? I

lost this for 2 years. It was in my friend's house.

Keeping around your neck. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Next to my little plaque of a 100

games. But, like, I I think that no no

one actually gives a shit. No. And I think most Brownlow

medalists are like, yeah. I mean, it's pretty cool. I don't know. It makes you

some more money in your life and you get, like, shit. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like,

work wise would be way better if I won a gold medal, but I didn't,

but doesn't make me any less of a person. I don't really. Yeah. I'd rather

be a nice non medalist than an asshole gold medalist. That's

all. Alright. So careful. Do you know what? That's what we need to be teaching

kids at school. Yeah. It's exactly the same. Not your Tinder score, not your ATAR.

Are you a good person? And it doesn't mean you don't try for that. I

don't try. I fucking tried so hard. Yeah. I tried so hard to win that

medal. It didn't work. That's okay. You'd rather be known

as a nice person that tried really hard than the best that was a

fucking little asshole and also didn't really try hard. Not trying

is so embarrassing. Mhmm. That's what I think. Yeah. So And it doesn't go

hand in hand. You don't have to be the a fucking asshole to be the

best. You can be a nice person and be the best too. That's why.

Oh, totally. Totally. Yep. Alright. Thank

you, Georgie. Thank you, John. We'll wrap it up. That was a very nice

ending. That was that was very nice. I think if people could take that message

from it, I think that's all you need in life. So, Georgie, thank you so

much for being on the show. Absolute pleasure. Thank you, guys. Thanks.

You were fun for boys.