The Overly Excited Podcast

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Welcome to the overly excited podcast hosted by Jack Watts and Dale

Sidebottom. Two friends with a passion for life, learning and all

things that get them jumping out of their

seats. Alright, everyone. We're back. It's episode 30. It is a

Friday. We are a little bit late. We've only just made it. We've only

we've scraped through this week because of all your requests. We couldn't

miss another week, couldn't we, Soddy? We couldn't, Jacko. Now before we

start, I've, had some pretty average facts lately. And

I couldn't even pronounce one the other week. It was not bad. Now for 30,

I've actually got a game for us today. Okay. To play a game. Alright. So

we're gonna count up. Mhmm. Any multiple of 3. So 3, 6,

9, 12. Okay. Any multiple of 3. You gotta say You gotta say

excited. Excited. Okay. Or 13 or 23.

Okay. Anything with a 3 in it. So if we get to 30, we win

the game because then it's there's a 3 in every 30. So it's excited

excited excited excited. Alright. So we're gonna have 3 goes at it. Okay. Alright. So

one. 2. Excited. 4. 5. Excited. 7.

8. Excited. 10. 11. Excited. Excited.

14. Excited. 16. 17. Excited.

19. 20. Excited. 22. Excited.

Excited. 25. 26. Excited.

28? 29? Excited. Excited. Excited.

I can't believe we got that.

Well, I mean, Buzz, I was the champion of Buzz Spectator.

You were if you could, at least see your face, you're

concert dress. I've I'm not going. What a great game it

is. Oh, there you go. There's one. That's, that's what I do for a job,

Jack. Well done. Thanks, man. That's got me up. Well, that was Friday

morning day. Better than one of my average quotes or stories. Yeah. So I'm

excited about that. Now before we start, and I wanna talk about your week because

Yes. You know, I've been all over the shop. Typical Jacobin. Anzac Day

yesterday. I know you didn't watch the game. Mhmm. I think it's the best game

of the year. Why? Grand final, there's neutral

supporters everywhere. Mhmm. You look at yesterday and the history and the Anzac and what

it means, and it's just Collinwood Essendon. It was 90 +1,000

at the g, and it was a cracking game. I know we've spoken recently

about I find a lot of games hard to watch now because it's a little

bit boring. That wasn't. It was amazing. So if

everyone playing, yeah, well done. And I know you didn't watch it,

but I didn't watch it, but saw that it was a draw. And,

I can only imagine it would have been a pretty game. I was busy out

having a hike down at, Bushrangers Bay, mate, down at Flinders. But

but I, yeah. I mean, that game is I

went to actually went to and watch the, Anzac Day eve

game. Melbourne, Richmond, the doll was there with

a few of her friends. I said I'd pop in but, managed to

last a quarter and then headed home to bed. But I was a bit nackered

as I've had a big week as you said. But, but it was not it

was, you know, beautiful to see the service beforehand and the build up.

And, you know, I think those games, it's it's interesting, isn't it? But, like, all

the teams now want those signature game, you know, something

to put it in the calendar. It's just it's very hard to manufacture

it out of nowhere, isn't it? Yeah. So, you know, the days and and

tags have done very well sort of sneaking in Anzac Day Eve. Did you

did you never got that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got Yeah. Oh, I might have

kicked 4 on one day. But,

no. I got it. I I think I was there when we first started. Oh,

right. Yep. So I think I probably got maybe 2 or 3 of them

in. But it early we were pretty average. And

then, you know, I think we had 1 or 2 pretty good ones where the

ties were good. We were decent. You know, I think I reckon that

was probably, you know, one of my favorite games would be for sure. I

think we had one where it was in front of 8080 ish and, you know,

I might have kicked a couple and put them to the sword. So it was

good. But, do you want, like, standing out there, like, that's the thing

I love about going. Obviously, I barrack for the bomber, so I really

enjoy Anzac Day. But, just that start, I I

don't know any other sporting spectacle in the world that there's something

that's must be amazing standing out there. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty epic. And

even just the build up to, like, obviously, all the clubs now, they put a

lot of effort into it and they bring in people to have a chat and

you learn a lot about the history and, you know, having

that sort of element there, like always found it, you know, it's

sort of sad that it takes something like that for us to think about it.

But at the same time, it's like, you know, we, we do the best

we can. But, you know, just, just like thinking back even

for me, like the other day, you know, Wednesday night and yesterday,

it's like that actually happened to some, you know, like, it's

so hard to, like, actually think, you know,

that these guys, you know,

17, 18, 19, 20 year olds heading off to war. So 16, 15.

They lied about their age. Yeah. And get and getting killed and and

living, you know, it's like that actually happened, you know, not so long ago. And,

you know, just imagining like what that would have been like, or

you can't. You can't. You can't be. I actually when I was in living in

London, I went over to Turkey to glibly for the 100 and

fiftieth, like, service. She did. And you go there and you so you sleep

on this hill at ends at cove Yeah. And then you get up and

you do the services, and and you walk around. Yeah. Like, where

they were and the places they were. And there's this one part that

really block was really chilling for me is I can't remember the name of it,

but it was like a 20 meter opening, and that's where there was a ditch

and a ditch, and it was like kamikaze. Like, they just kept running, and

they were just getting shot down. They knew what was happening, but they just

They were told they had to we had to get over there or we had

to just so I think the games, particularly

Anzac Day with Collinwood Essam now, tigers and demons has been

brilliant for bringing awareness. Mhmm. You know, that educating around it and

what it actually means. But going over there and I know you're gonna go and,

you're going to Kokoda. Mhmm. I think

when you experience something like that first hand and you get to see it, like

I still I Yeah. What this yeah. Because there's all

different spots around it and, Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy.

When you yeah. Exactly. When it becomes real, you know, to like, it's not

just a story at in school or it's not just this. You actually go

over and see what's, you know, what they had to do and stuff. It's,

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So, Yeah. Well,

anyway, there we go. Moving on now. I'm excited to talk about this.

Not once, twice, missed flights. Yeah. I know this one wouldn't have

been as Well, yeah. Expensive of a year of 1. Yeah. This one wasn't quite

and it was probably it wasn't a really missed flight. It was just a change

sort of, you know, the 7:55 AM on the Monday was a bit

ambitious after a Saturday, Sunday, wedding wedding

up in Brisbane, but, I I decided to take

the sleeping and and just relax. But, that's that's why we don't have the

beautiful Georgie Parker on the pod, ladies and gentlemen, because,

Jackie boy just needed a bit of a sleeping on the Monday. But we will

get her back on hopefully next week, I think.

But, but yeah, it was, an amazing wedding. Oh, it was just one of the,

these 2, they're just so relaxed and funny and

like even just the, the, the ceremony

was hilarious. 1 of our friends was a celebrant and she's brilliant and

just, you know, it wasn't all the standard, like, you

know, traditional religious stuff. It was, it was just, you know,

hilarious stories and, both, both the,

you know, bride and groom. Like, they're both very, very funny in their own little

ways. And so then it just became almost like a comedy

scene. It was hilarious. But, yeah. Beautiful wedding. And

then, yes, I was sort of tossing up whether to stay on the

Sunday, locked it in. And then, you know, me had to get that a good

time. Once you're there, you gotta give it a, you gotta give it everything you

got. So the party jacket. Exactly. So, that was beautiful, but it

just coming back Monday, Arvo puts the week out a little bit,

and then I had a big photo shoot on Tuesday. So straight into a big

photo shoot, for squashies and then, you

know, the week was a bit of mayhem after that. So we've made

it here Friday morning for the most important thing of the week,

the party. And it's been a short week too. We've, the

public holiday, which throws everything out. Yeah. Were you MC?

No. No. No. No. No. So you were back the best time. Yeah. Yeah.

Kick back. That was beautiful. Very good. That's a

wedding. That's what you want. Yeah. It was good. I've got one for you,

mate. So last week, obviously, you spoke about how you wanna become a

pro golfer. Oh, yes. You wanna play NBL, and you're gonna run

marathons for Olivia. Yes. And I'm like, this is so Well, I don't feel like

I could do any on this week. I would tell you. And I thought, yeah,

what? Like, I need to challenge myself on something. And I've sung these

before, but I always thought I'd be good at survivor, like, go on the TV

show. But I wouldn't be because they don't I I love to

eat. They don't eat. Mhmm. And they hardly sleep. Mhmm. And,

like, it it's torture. Like, so I've actually realized I

don't think that's for me. That's not for you. Yeah. And also, like, you've

gotta be away for a long period of time. So in a way, it's a

little bit selfish, I feel. And it probably wouldn't be the best for my business.

I don't think you get paid. So I don't know how you pay What if

you win the million? Well, I don't even think it's that much. Okay. I don't

think it might only be like $250. Like, that's not nice. Saying me

wrong, but, there's a lot of other people going in. Like, you're not

guaranteed to do that, and I would probably upset someone. I'd say the wrong thing.

Well, let's be honest. You'd be what what what kind of a player would you

be? Would you be backstabbing? Would you be bringing everyone in? Like, I'm in your

camp, you guys, and then bang. See you later. You wanna play, I reckon, if

you're gonna play survivor, and this is where brave I talk about

it. She goes, you wouldn't be able to do this because you're too outspoken and

it's all about you. You wanna sit back and let everyone else Sit back. Let

everyone else combust. Let them do all these things. You'll be combusting.

You'd be out there creating dramas. Like, no. I'm not

having this. This girl's telling me I can't do this. No. I've been voted

straight out and, like, get rid of that idiot. Jeez, he's annoying. I

just thought I was friends with everyone. They'll hate me. Oh my god. You'd be

you would be so entertaining on that show. But I think I'd lose my mind

not eating. I just eat rice and coconut like, wowie. I could not

function on that. So anyway, I've always thought, like, going on a

TV show, and talk about maybe you've been invited on a few TV

shows, Diego. Yes. And I've always loved, like, I've always wanted to

do a game show. Why? Because it's you're putting yourself out there so vulnerable,

you don't know what's going to happen, but I've always been a little bit scared.

So I thought, you know, when you said you're gonna become pro golf, basketball, and

marathon, I'm gonna apply for Tipping Point. Do you know Tipping Point?

Tipping Point, no. It's, I've actually really enjoyed the

UK version, so it's on at 3 o'clock every day. You're probably working, Jack. I

just happened to sort of watch it. Sometimes I really enjoyed it. Anyway, there's now

an Australian one. So I put myself out there and applied for

Tipping Point. If we know any producers at Tipping Point, put

this man's name through because he will ratings will

skyrocket. Or I'll make a full I thought, Joe, like it's a

spare time you challenge yourself to do something. What's so what's tipping

point? Is it like, general knowledge? Is that some question yeah. Yeah.

It's general knowledge, and then you get, like, this coin, there's a machine, and you

gotta drop it in, and it pushes coins out. So there's a bit of luck

involved with it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a lot of general knowledge and Yeah. Just

got a bit of everything going on. I do, as you say, like, I always

think about that, like, you know, I like to think I'm relatively

intelligent. I've got a little bit of general knowledge in You are. But you always

think that, like, going on those shows, what if you just get the easiest question

and you go blank or you Everyone And then then you're a dum dum. Oh.

Then you're to the world. And everyone will call you that for the rest of

your life. And I know that, and that's where I'm like, no. I I need

that though. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I need to feel that uncomfortableness. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think that's important. So what yeah. When you mentioned it, I'm like, I've

been thinking about this for a while. Yep. And I'd so I just did it.

Now your TV journey, you haven't, done any of these, but

can you reel off some of the shows you've been invited to be on? Oh,

look. Jeez. Well, it was all sort of, you know, it was probably

just after I've finished playing footy and then, you know, you've obviously I've had plenty

of drama, so they're probably thinking, you know, we could just capitalize on this.

But we had, you know, had

the other big brother call and I had the,

the SAS army

thing call With that aunt Millington. Aunt Millington or

whatever. One of them. And, and then I

had what was the other one? There was like the bridge or something

or that you have to like yeah. That was probably one of the worst

shows we've ever seen. So that was a good one. Bridge. Okay.

Yeah. Well, another show started with b. With b. You get roses?

The Bachelor. Yeah. I know. You haven't? No. I've had,

I've had calls from the producers, you know, they sort I think they knew that

I wouldn't be interested, but do you have any friends? You got any, you know,

single mates that would wanna give it a go? But now that's, that's

that's the I I I do I look at the survivor and

even the SAS. Like, if it wasn't straight after I'd, just finished

and I wanted a bit of a break, I reckon I'd enjoy that.

But bachelor and whatever else there

is. Yeah. You reckon you look silly? Even big dramas. You

reckon you look silly on a game show, but you're going on there. Yeah. Exactly.

Mate, they'll edit you up however they want you to be. Spot on. And if

they want you to be a wanker, yeah, that's what you are. Exactly. I reckon

you'd be good at that SAS. I don't know if you watch it. Good. Yeah.

I haven't really watched a lot of it, but it it's Pretty full on, but

it's it's a good challenge. I mean, I think you would personally do well

at it and enjoy it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, like, you

know, I mean, it's easy to say, I guess, isn't it? But, you know, I

think I've been through enough of that sort of shit to not get you through

a trauma. Yeah. To not really, you know, get

too flustered by it and, you know, I think that's all I they just

wanna see you lock in and Yeah. You know. And that's I think that's

real too. Like, it's yeah. I don't know. That's that's the sort of

thing I wanna watch. That's why I like Survivor. Like, they may end it up

or whatever, but there are people out there, like, they're starving

them. Yeah. They're doing all sorts of things to them. Like, that's I'll tell you

what I I'll tell you the one I love is alone. Have you seen

alone? I have. Could you do that? I'd love

to. I mean, look, I don't I might last 10 minutes, but I

just think, like, I was funny. We were on this hike yesterday and we were,

I was talking to Ellen about it and I'd love,

I think as I'm getting a bit older and like things, things become a bit

monotonous monotonous in your life and you saw the same shit. Like,

I love fucking adrenaline. I wanna test myself and I want to, you know,

all this bullshit about becoming a, you know, golfer or whatever. So it's all

just about, like, test, you know, you want it instead of just living the

average, you want to try and, you know, really sort of test the boundaries.

So I was just like, we were talking about it. I was like, there's gotta

be some, some like company out there or whatever that just, that

sort of, you know, in terms of hikes or like living

off, you know, living off the land or like that take you through it. Even

if you're an, you don't have any experience, they can sort of

give you, you know, whether it's a 10 day,

camping trip where you literally don't have anything, you got

no, you know, access to the outside world, whatever. And then you can

sort of, what I was hoping is like, you can just keep going. You can

just keep finding, you know, like,

harder and harder and harder sort of camps, like real

adrenaline sort of seeking stuff. Do you know what I mean? And then, like, you

know, I'd love to do that with someone who sort of knows what they're doing

so I don't just die. I would like to do a view.

Imagine me. Would just be Caitlin. Yeah. Don't food. Don't fly

out. Exactly. Free them balls off.

But imagine that, like, I'd fucking love to do it because, like, you know, then

it just, like, it's actually hard. Yeah. It's stuff that and

then you come back to our little cushy life and everything's so easy and

everything's, and you'd actually appreciate it so much more. I can you'd appreciate

your hot shower and you'd appreciate your bed, you know,

all that kind of stuff. And I think obviously I've got that playing footy.

Like I got those really hard tests every now and then, you

know, we'd go on a 10 week, a 10 day, pre season camp

and it's just fucked and you hide every second of it, but you come back

and you really appreciate what you got sort of thing. Whereas, you know, these days

you can sort of avoid that pretty easily. I reckon, yeah, go to a gym

class for an hour and we and we can, you know, you get through it.

Exactly. Like, it might be hard, but it's not continuous. That's right. You think

you're pushing yourself, but it's like you can actually go so much further if you're

really pushed. I was thinking about it. I think that's

good. I I just think, these days, like, getting insurance and things.

Yeah. Yeah. Know how someone could actually run a

business like that. And, like, I know how it is just to get insurance

and I I speak on stage. Yeah. Like, people sit down or stand up,

like, like, a game like we just played. Yeah. And that's getting hard to get.

So imagine That's so taking people out into the

wilderness. That's so crazy how what the world oh, just do it

black market. Just do it behind closed doors. I'll just give you a

big bag of cash. Take me out there and nearly kill me.

What about did you see, Andy and Tyler, what they did for Yeah.

Tim. What was that? Yeah. So I don't know if people here are

familiar with CrossFit workouts. I don't know if you are, but there's one called

Murph Yeah. Where you put on a 20 I think it's

10 I'm gonna get this wrong. 10 or 12 kilo weight vest. Yep.

You've gotta run 1.6 miles, which is

essentially nearly 3 kilometers. 3. Yeah. Then you've got to do a 100

pull ups, 200 push ups, and I think it's 300 sit

ups. And then you run the 1.6 miles again.

A 100 pull ups with the 12 k vest on? Yep. 200 push ups with

the vest on and then 300 sit ups or squats. One of those. Can't this

is off the top of my head. Yeah. Yeah. And then you do the 3

kilometer run again. And so they over the 24 hour period, they did

6 of those. So shout out to, I actually

saw Andy at the gym this morning, and he demonstrating a box jump, and he

nearly fell over. He was that sore. As you would be. Yeah. Fucking

hell. That's insane. So you've just done

600 pull ups. So it's For that 18 k

run, 600 pull ups. A 100 and 1200. 12

100 and fist. Squats. See that push ups

with a wider vest. Fuck. And that's not really, like, in over a 24 hour

period, you're not really sleeping much. Mhmm. Yeah. Well, I took to

Good on it. Well, there you go. That's exactly what we're talking about, like, doing

these things. They seem crazy, like, people might look at it and go,

you know, how how stupid is that? Like, what but, like, imagine

this the feeling of satisfaction he'd be feeling today. Or Oh, yeah.

Look like he's moving very well, but he thought he might not have enjoyed it,

but he wouldn't have feel it. I love I love when my body's cooked and

because you've just smashed, you know, whether it's a half marathon or a

big run or a big this or that and you're feeling cooked.

That's a great feeling because, you know, you've pushed yourself and, you know Yeah. But

that's I agree. I agree. And so that's what you've got coming up to

marathon. That's essentially Yeah. Your and you've gotta

have something locked in on fuel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, nothing happens. Yeah. You're intentional.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's right. And it's like, it actually because I've got a bit

of time for it sort of it's now I'm sort of thinking,

alright, do I give it a real crack to, you know, because I'm like, well,

I might as well. Oh, you should. Yeah. And it's like, you know, I would

Would you try and drop a few kilos? Yeah. I reckon. I reckon. You probably

need to do that. If I, if I really wanna give it a go, I'd

probably, you know, really up my running. Yeah.

You know, I think I've got about 6 months, so plenty of time to train

and stuff. But I spoke to, spoke to the great Jess Tringo

who just ran a PB over in Seoul, qualified for the

Olympics. I'm pretty sure 5 months after having a second kid

ran a 2/22 marathon.

So she's just an absolute weapon, but, we should

get her on pod. We should. Oh my God. She'd love it. She's such a

she's she does a fair bit of talking actually. She's just

a weapon. So, so quick. We'll get her on. Yeah, I think, I think it

was like 33 minute 30 ks pace

or, even under or something like it's just stupid pace. That's

ridiculous. But, yeah, I spoke to her after that and I said, oh, I'm I've

got my marathon come up. You know, let's

slowly. Yeah. No. No. No. You know, certainly

certainly wasn't saying that I'd be, I'll be challenging her. So

but I just sort of ask, you know, what in terms of, like, a beginner

runner, what what sort of, training should you be doing? And and she said, you

know, what are you doing at the moment? I said, oh, sort of 1 runner

week. She said, yeah. You're gonna have to up that to The running

is funny that. At least sort of 3 to 4 a week.

So, you know, as I as I get a bit closer to it, I think

I'll start having to really knuckle down on the run. I think

that's one sport running. You just need to have the case Yeah. In the legs.

That zone 2, they say. Yeah. Zone 2 running. You just gotta get it in

there. I've got that to Hyrox coming up in about, I think it's

about 8 or 9 weeks. Yep. Are you doing that solo? No. I'm doing it

with. So we're doing it together. I bought that for her birthday. I don't think

she was that impressive as a birthday person. I hope there was

something else there on the side or not. Yeah. It's a pair of

runners. Yeah. No. There actually

was. But no. I sort of not. No. Not. You're not you're not

giving you're not sending a message. Or something, you know, like an iron.

That's really degrading. I bought something that we could share together.

Yeah. Like, so nice. See, that's what it was about. It's not you're not saying,

Briza, come on. Get to the gym. You're saying No. Because she goes to the

gym. She's like, I said, I would like to do something together. Yes. The love.

And I'm not trying to be, like, rude. I was I just when I tell

people, boy, it's their birthday, they look at me like, oh, well, that's true. But

what it'll give us will be a memory. An experience.

I don't know we have this is not going out for dinner or a movie.

Are we gonna do something together? Yep. As you're saying, I achieved something

together in the and and it's also about the journey of

training for it. Yeah. You know, it gives you all these weeks of how we

go on, you know, should we get on the Probably need to do a bit

more running. Like, because that that is a big component of

it. But, yeah, I think that's, one thing about now. I've

got, one for you, and I think this is a bit more serious here,

Jacko. Okay. Breeze has been away for work against the

boys. I find this really,

really weird, but, like so a couple of times, like, I took them out for

breakfast to the general store in the corner, and I had 2 different occasions.

2 ladies come up and go and just watching. I'm like, everything good? She

goes, oh, I'm just watching. Like, it's so amazing what you're doing here. I'm

like, oh, okay. So I just I'm a dad. I've got 2 boys there.

I'm eating breakfast. But be she goes, it's so good to see what you're doing.

I'm like and I looked around the cafe, and there's mum's doing exactly the

same thing, but what I'm doing, like, I

get recognition. I and I come home and told Breeze because no one's ever said

that to me. It's happened to me twice in the space of a month. Mhmm.

I was like and also, like, we're not just taking for a walk. Oh, you're

such a good dad. You're doing I I'm like, I'm just walking my kids.

The expectations are very different from I'm like, they don't I know these people

didn't mean it by what they were saying, but it was so backwards

still. Like But I mean, it's not it's not on them. It's not on them.

The all they're doing is saying, I don't like what you're doing. It's a really

nice thing, But then also I'm like, that's so unfair.

Firstly, for dads, like, they're my kids, but I

should be doing half as much as what I am. And Bree's going away for

work. I go away for work. That's not like I should get a pat on

the back, but it's like, that's what it's it's sort of is.

Yeah. I mean, obviously, the the tradition is, you

know, women's woman stays at home, the mom stays at home with the kids. And

so I think clearly you're going to see a lot more moms out there with

their kids at a cafe. So when someone sees it, you know,

they probably haven't seen it as much. And so it's like, oh, that's, you know,

good on you because you're bucking the trend a little bit or, you know,

so I get it. I get what you're saying. I get the I get, you

know, I'm just really unfair because I bet those I'm not gonna say who

they were or what gender, but those people weren't going up

to the females. They were doing exactly the same thing and giving them the

compliments. Mhmm. I don't know. It's I just think so many things still. Like,

we're so progressive in the way we think we're living, but

then we're still so backwards. Like, you know, you've only just gotta look at,

like, domestic violence and, you know, the Bondi

stabbing. And then Ballarat, there's I think there's been 3 murders in a month.

Or or women, you know, like, in it I don't know. You see

things like that. I I don't know. What's your

thoughts on that? Because I just think it's like, I personally I guess I think

that's probably why you're getting these compliments because men,

you know, we're like the

aggression and, you know, male violence is clearly a

huge issue. And women are dying, you know, every single week. Yeah.

Which is fucked. Like But that's it's reality. I know. But how's

it? Of course it's fucked. How does that change? Like

Yeah. No. That's what I've that's what I sort of, you know,

I struggle with or not. Because I obviously don't know. And I

obviously a lot, you know, a lot of people jump on social media and, you

know, like, this is just crazy. We've got to stop it. But it's like,

what? What can you do? Like, how do you change it? And

like, I've always we've spoken about it a lot here, but I think all of

this stuff, it's like comes down to education and, you know,

as kids, I think if you're taught as

a, as a kid, you know, instead of, I don't know, half the pointless

shit that you learn at school when you're growing up, I think it's like, you

know, if you can teach morals and you know, what's

important, what's really important and how to treat people and what's

acceptable and what's not when you're a 5, 6, 7, 8 year old kid,

you know, I think that's for me, that's that's where the biggest change

would come. Yeah. Because then those kids grow up

and they become parents and they, you know, I think that's where it all starts.

But, you know, it's a very, very hard issue

and I don't have all the answers by any means. And,

you know, it's, yeah, it's a tough one because,

you know, who makes a decision on what, you know,

you need to change, how you change it. Everyone would have

different opinions and, you know, everyone's I think that's why we're

in this situation. I agree. It comes to education, but unfortunately,

that a lot of time you can do whatever you want at school. And I've

seen this firsthand when I was teaching that the programs and things

you do at school, brilliant, but then the kids go home. You've got no

control what's happening there. Mhmm. And it's the parents Yeah. The ones

that are then taking control of what their kids do. They're their role

models, so it's generational. Like, you need to break that

cycle, but And I'm sure. How do you do that? Yeah.

I'm sure those, you know, parent violent parents and or, you

know, whatever. Like, I'm sure they probably experienced it as kids. Just keeps getting

passed down. And so It's like an inheritance of a really bad form

that that no one needs to they don't know how to break it because they

know that's that's just what they do. That's all I've ever known.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's It's accepted. That's where I think, like, it's so

admirable. Like when, you know, if someone has come from a

family of that, you know, of, of that nature sort of thing. Like people who

do break that cycle in their families, like whether even drinking or,

you know, drugs or whatever it might be, it's like when,

when you're the one to actually break that cycle and say, no, that's not

the norm because it is so difficult if that's the standard that

you've grown up with, it's so difficult to avoid it, you

know? You know, even like you say, you know,

unhealthy, overweight families or whatever, often it goes to it. It

sort of trickles down because you know what the parents are eating and what the

comes down to the kid and, you know, very hard to, as a

as a child to, like, stand up and break that and say, no. I'm going

to do something different or when you're doing a junk food or something like.

Yeah. When you're. Exactly. So, yeah, it's

a, it's a bloody tough one. And,

you know, I've yeah.

I I don't know enough about it to to be an expert and

and to have a I don't think anyone does, but I think just talking about

it and I don't know. Probably, we're talking about it and the

people need to listen and hear things like this. Don't listen to podcasts. Oh, I

don't know. Do you know what I mean? Like, I I don't I'm very fortunate

that I don't know anyone that does has been done for

domestic violence or or has been in a relationship or anything like that.

Yeah. But I mean, a lot of it goes on. Yeah. Exactly. And I

we'd probably be surprised, like, you know, you say you don't know anyone,

but, yeah, you probably don't. We don't know anything. You know, there's there's a lot

of people don't talk about it. Exactly. It's not out there. And,

you know, I think, as like I remember growing up as a

kid and you think, oh, that doesn't happen and that doesn't happen and abuse

doesn't happen and sexual assault doesn't happen. Like not, not where

we live and blah, blah, blah. And you, you grow up and you find out

pretty quickly that it's everywhere. So, you

know, it's, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a tough

issue and I don't really know how to handle it. But nah. But I think

just talking about I think anything that it comes down to is talking,

educating, and trying to learn and get better. And I feel it's

like when you don't if someone's going through a rough period or, you know,

someone's passed away or something, if you don't even know how to talk to

them, by not doing it is actually worse than just

trying. Like, just starting a conversation and no one's got all the answers,

but just sort of starting in. So of like what we did today, like, we've

mumbled around this because and I think a lot of people do because

there is no clear path. It's not like a marathon, you know, you need to

run to do it. Yep. That's how you train. Mhmm. For domestic

violence and all these things going on, there's no clear path of how we

change that Yeah. Or how we educate people, to

change what is happening because women don't feel safe to go

outside now. And that, like, even Brie, she was in Newcastle as she

away for work. Her accommodation was 300 meters away from the

restaurant or pub where they're having dinner. Mhmm. And she had to wait an hour

for someone else to leave so she could because she didn't feel safe walking back.

And I'm like, why wouldn't you just walk? And this is, like, naive of me.

But she goes, I don't feel safe. And I'm like, far out.

Imagine anywhere just not feeling safe. Like, we live in

Australia. We live in one of the most brilliant lucky countries in

the world where women don't even feel safe to walk. Like,

Newcastle is a big city, just walked 300 meters. Mhmm.

That's just sad. That that's what makes me sad. And I

we take it for granted, Jack, that we can and I'm sure if we're in

the wrong place at the right time, we probably couldn't either, but we don't have

to worry about that. That's that's so unfair. Yeah. Yeah.

Definitely. I think it's it's not her responsibility to have to take

care of us, you know, like to avoid walking through it, you

know, but, yeah, the reality is it's it happens and

it happens pretty often. So are you going to take that chance? Can you be

bolded taking that chance when, you know, breezes got 2 kids and a Yeah. You

know, partners. And it's like, well, I've just read about this woman

getting taken, you know, off the street.

Yeah. So it's difficult. And and, you know yeah. Who

knows? Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, change the topic a little bit there, but, I

think it is important to have chats like that. We talk about a lot of

different things, and I think that is, yeah, one that seems

to be getting worse. Mhmm. Like, I suppose, like a lot of things. I

think as as men, like, I think what what can you do?

It's like just show as much support and understanding and not,

you know, I think, I've certainly been around

where, like, these topics come up and, and guys like just

shoot it down or it's their fault or it's this or it's that. And it's

like the more you can, you know, support the other way

and just be there and, you know, like you're on the bridge at the Taylor

Swift concert. Yeah. Exactly. Exact like Yeah. Just just

stand up for what you believe in and what you, you know,

and actually, you know, even yeah. Have those hard

conversations if you hear something, like, no. That's not right.

Because that's when you pull someone up like that, that's well, some

people just won't change. Yeah. Exactly. But Yeah. If they don't, they're not the sort

of people I wanna be around anyway. I'm like, oh, okay. Life's short. We don't

have many chances now to catch up with people. So do you wanna be hanging

around with someone like that? No. Yeah. So if you do hear it, I agree.

Pull them up on it. Because a lot of time, people don't actually realize what

their words are doing. Mhmm. Like those people on the bridge, you know, the tell

us they throw away a comment to get a laugh at the boys. They wouldn't

have really understood the impact that could have on someone. Yep. Yep. And that's

why it's important to stand up and say those things. Yep.

Agreed. TV shows, Jacko. I got one for

you. I haven't, I haven't watched much TV. Oh.

Good one. I got started one last night. Apparently, mentioned Bray a lot

tonight. But, I suppose I don't really leave the house much. So I

spend a lot of time with my wife. There's a new show called baby

reindeer. Baby reindeer? On Netflix. You heard about this?

No. Oh, it is full on. So it's good. It's

like a it's like a drama dark comedy. Yep. And

it's about this guy that works at a bar, and he

gets stalked. Oh. But it's yeah. So the guy's getting

stalked by this. Anyway, I I only watched 3 episodes. They're short episodes only

30 minutes each. Yep. So I dare say we'll finish it over this weekend, 7

in the series. Yeah. That's a bit gone. That's good.

Yes. Okay. So if I could make a recommendation Baby reindeer.

Baby reindeer. I'll just finish Shogun. Shoguns? Shoguns

on Disney. It was like a Japanese sort of old period

show. It was pretty epic, like, quite slow and sort

of very, focused on character development

and conversations and but I loved it. I love

sort of Japanese history in the same oh, I love it. So Have you been?

Did you been? No. Still haven't. Jacko. If there's one place you

need to go I've heard I've heard. Everyone that goes says it's

amazing. So that's on the list. And then I've just started fallout.

So Christopher Nolan's brother, Jonah

Nolan, I think his name is, he's directing it. And, he sort of

he wrote Interstellar and Memento and, you know, helped

with the Batman's and all that. So, but he doesn't obviously

get the credit because Christopher Nolan's the big director and he's the big brother who

does everything. So, yeah, but this fallout show, it's based

on a on a game and it's, yeah, pretty epic. So just watch the

first What do you mean a game? Like a, a video game. Game. Yeah. Where

they're in a a video game. So no. It's based. So there's a

video game called fallout and you go and play it. And it's basically

like, you know, in the future they drop bombs

on America and then everyone has to go underground and, you know,

try to survive until the radiation moves away and blah, blah,

blah. So Is it actually a real game or is this Yeah. It's a real

game. It's like one of the, you know, highest rating games ever. I see. I'm

a bit I'm a bit out of touch. I'm not a gamer. So I'm I

I miss the game, but, but But you like this show? But

supposedly Sorry. I'm trying to get my head around it. Gaming is

massive. You've got to look like e sports and I actually listened to

this podcast with, Jonah Nolan and he

was saying, like, back in the day, like, games were able to

be a lot more, like, risky with their storytelling

and stuff than what TV shows and movies were because, you

know, the big producers and stuff, like if it was a really touchy

topic, like I'd say, no, we don't want to produce that.

Whereas games, they sort of had a free reign. And so like

the, like the politics and the story in these

games was so much more like hard hitting and like the narrative,

the narrative like it was. And so that's what they've run with. And now that

he's finally got this green lit and he's he's, yeah, supposedly it's pretty

full on. So Wow. Looking forward to that one. That's cool. Cool.

Because that's what gaming is. It's a scenario. That's a storytelling. Mhmm.

Yeah. And that's essentially what hooks people in. They become part of it because it's

so good. Yeah. Exactly. And that's where, like, so many different industries are trying to

use gamification Yeah. To build engagement. And I think that's where schools

could really, I know we don't always like talking about gaming, but

look at the engagement they get. Kids will kids won't they'll play till they nearly

die. Yeah. Because they're so engaged with it. Yeah. How can we

get more of that in school to bring across things In a

productive way. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. So not to learn literacy and numeracy,

like, to learn life skills like we've just spoken about. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. How can you do that? And that's that's the

$1,000,000,000,000 question because nobody's been able to figure it out. Yeah. They can figure

out how to do games so well. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah. How

do you create that fun and engagement whilst, you

know, in a in a positive sort of 1, 2,

excited. 4, 5, excited. Hey. That got

me. That got you. I wish you had a feeling that your face is

on there.

Final one for me, were you part of the shoot for squash? No. No. No.

I'm not seeing you popping up a lot more now. Absolutely not. I I

was called the the, the human coat hanger. So all of

us all of our product You just hold them? Yeah. They just tell alright. Take

that one off. Chuck it at me. Bang. I'll just carry that one. I carry

this one. What do you need? What do you need? Yep. I'll get you that

one. Do you need a coffee? Anyone need anything to eat? So I was

just like the little, you know, the little minion on the shoot that,

kept everyone happy. So pretty much what I do in life.

Really. But it's good fun. It was good fun. Well, Jacko,

pleasure as always. What have you you're you're off to, play some golf? I am

off to play some golf today. How are you feeling? Are you coughing? I've

been, been trying to play a little bit more, because I haven't played for a

few years in a play view, and I was horrendous. And I don't like sucking

at something. So I've been hitting them okay. It's a great game. It's a

great game. It's like running. You've gotta keep doing it. Yeah. True. And

someone to the range last week and Oh. So I've been hitting some balls.

So anyway, we'll wait and see. Bought some new golf shoes. Oh,

okay. That makes all the difference. Yeah. My other one, she was getting wet socks,

and I'm like Yep. Yep. Go on. I shot a nice little 76

round Saint Andrews last Sunday. So that was, that was

So you're getting closer to me in a pro. That was about as good as

I've yeah. As good as I've hit him for a long time. So but I

haven't been out since and now because it's been a week and a half. You

go out next time, you have no idea what you're doing. That's a frustrating thing.

But 76 of the stick though. Yeah. It's pretty it's pretty solid. After

you said you're gonna be a gold pro, you've, Here we come. So is that

4 over? Yeah. I think it was about 4 or 5 or what's

yeah. I don't know what, Saint Andrews is 4 or 5 over, 6 over.

And with a lost ball on the last. Hit my 3rd off the

tee. Could've been anything. Could've been anything. It could've been

nearly scratches. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, well.

Alright. Well, let's get Georgie on next week.

We'll have a bit bit of a better week where we're from the from the

get go. You know, it's fine anywhere. Yep. No. No. No. Well, there's a positive.

I literally, like, I was so flustered this week. I just canceled

everything. I did see you yesterday. You did look

flustered. You look better now. Yeah. Yeah. I feel feel better. I got

I just did all my washing, did some vacuuming yesterday.

Day off just does wonders. You know? Got it all done. Just got life in

order, which is that's what I needed. I just had hadn't had a

chance since the wedding come straight back into work. You got nothing done.

Nothing's clean. House is not clean. That's

anxiety. That's anxiety. Life skills ain't done.

Get running with your old mate, Aaron. Get Aaron's done. Here we go. Alrighty,

Ron. Peace out. Be good. Have a good weekend. Have a great

weekend. Enjoy yourselves.