#29 Jack & Dale | Mastering Life: Skiing, Traveling, & Perseverance

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Alright, everyone. We have had a hiatus. It's been a week off. I tell you

what. Episode number 29, we are back. Excitement

is in the room. Hi. And the great man is back.

Welcome. Welcome, Jack Watts. How are you, my friend? I'm good,

Dale. Thank you. I'm very, very well. I'm a bit tired. Jet lag's

hitting me. You and I were at the gym at 5 AM this morning. You're

looking good too, mate. Yeah. There's nothing like an awesome fresh tan. A nice little

bronze up. And it's not a spray on. That's

you've earned that. This is legit. You got that. You paid for it. You went

there and you got it. This is the real deal. So no. Feeling feeling

good. Just feeling a bit tired tonight. But, you know, we find a way, don't

we? We do. And I must admit, I'm sitting here feeling it's

nice for me not to be jet lagged. I know the feeling. So thank you

for making the effort, because I know how hard it is. You do feel better

after it. I bet you will. I will touch base on that before. But,

episode number 29. I've got a couple of stats for you. Oh, you love a

stat. Yeah. I thought that's just a thing we do these days. People don't

like people like 29, they don't like 30. Oh. So when

a lot of people say how old you are, it's 29. 29.

Okay. And a little joke, and this is a stinker, by the way. Probably having

a good one. But, what did the number 29 keep?

Why did the number 9 I can't even say it. Why did the why

did number 29 keep checking the calendar? Because it

couldn't wait to leap ahead. It couldn't wait to

leap get any

worse than that. Shocking joke and I couldn't February 29th. Imagine being born on

February 29th. Oh, no. It'd be, when would you celebrate? On

28th, obviously? Well, or 1st March. Who knows? Well, well, you never

know. Take your time. Anyway, it can't get any worse than that. That was a

horrible joke, and I couldn't even deliver it. So and I'm not even the one

with jet lag. So, yeah, go talk to me,

mate. Mexico. It was

special. Oh, that's French.

No. It was a pretty special trip. Yeah. We, we did a couple of days

in in the states for for Did you go to the snow? Yeah. What?

Like, you said you're going to Mexico, and next minute I see you say you're

in the snow. Yeah. Doesn't snow in Mexico, surely. You're hitting the

slopes. No. No. We, we had planned, like, a couple of days

in in, the States, and we've gone to this big bear lake, and it was

meant we were going to go hiking and stuff. And

then we got there and this this ski season had sort of extended, and they

had a big dump a couple of weeks earlier. It was it was pure. And,

so, yeah, we just thought, fuck it. Let's go for a day on the slopes.

I'd never skied. Do you care if you you've never skied. I went once when

I was, like, 8 or something and, you know, fell off the side of a

mountain. My sister got cleaned up by a, a snowboarder,

broke her arm, and I fell off the mountain. Had to get picked up by

the skidoo or whatever. Dad was just taking us down black runs and

I was about 8 years old. So that's that's my skiing

experience. But, I must have meet Jacko. I haven't there hasn't been many

things that you're not good at. This was this was a battle.

It was a struggle. I mean, it's funny because I was thinking the same thing

that, you know. Yeah. I can assure you. Your confidence.

Oh, man. I was like, you know, because l I went with Ellen and she's

Swedish and she's got she's been, you know, on the slopes since since she was

2 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I'm thinking,

you know, check the skis on and, you know,

anyway, we got up there and and I I was running into

people like we were on the little the little practice sort of just a little

mountain like this. And I couldn't stop. I couldn't turn. I was

falling over. I couldn't even walk in the ski boots, let

alone, like, get out in the mountain. But, you know, end up

finding my feet and, you know, in true jay watts fashion,

just worked it out, worked hard on his craft, and by the end of the

day, I was, we should

what was it? It's like blue blue then green or green?

Green green black. Green blue. Then double black. So we're doing the greens, and then

I was like, fuck it. I'll find Give me a blue? Yeah. Give me a

blue. And we got up to this blue and I've just, like, I'm

just panicked and once you're up there, you're the only way you're down. It's a

lot harder to walk down, mate. And then I've come down and, like,

just eat and shit, like, bang over. Lost both skis,

poles everywhere. Had to, like, walk, trudge back up the mountain to get

my skis. And so, yeah, I'm definitely a green

run at the moment. Just finding my feet, but it was it was Do you

enjoyed it though? Yeah. Loved it. It's amazing, mate. It's a it's I reckon

it's it's my favorite thing to do in winter. Really? Oh, I love it. Yeah.

I've liked that all over the world. I absolutely love it. But I was

fortunate too that I and I'm Helps me three four nothing. Helps me

right next to the ground, but I when I fall, I pop up. You'd

be a good scout. You'd be I wouldn't mind seeing you. No. Well, I

think I'd be better than you from what I've heard. There's no doubt about that.

But I think it does help probably being a little bit smaller. You would I

would have loved to see you like big boy Yeah. Out of

control. Looking like a like a baby deer just like

Bambi just legs going everywhere. Oh, I've got some I've got some footage. Hold on.

I'll look forward to it. I'll give you just a look. This is me by

the end. I I thought you would have just been, you know I don't think

skiing is one of those things. You're natural? Well, you you are a

natural at everything I've ever seen you do. I think scheme's one of

those things all being in the snow, unless you do it from a young age.

It is very hard to pick up. Here we go. We've got Jacko.

For a while. Oh, you're going alright, mate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's alright.

By the end, I'll pick up. You're not snow you're not snow plowing. That's where

you do pizza. Oh, okay. Fries. Pizza. Fries. Mate. Oh,

mate. That's a good effort in one day. Mate, by the end, I was like,

I didn't stack it on the list. Admit, you don't look very smooth. No. No.

I'm glad you got a helmet on. I'll be I'll be honest.

That's probably the most important thing you can do that one. Shit. Mate, that's good.

Yeah. It's good fun. And by by the end, I was addicted. I might, get

me to this like when we're going to Bulla, like No. Go to Queenstown. I

know. It's better to go over to Yeah. Like, go spend 4 days in

But to do a, you know, to do a easy I think Alan might have

a a house or some one of them's got a house up there. So Well,

that's, it's always nice when you got something to say. So, anyway, you went in

the snow. Close. I'm glad you shared that with me. Like, you jet lagged today

made me feel a bit better. I'm a full day. Feeling a bit better about

myself. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's good on you, mate. You should that's very

good for the person. Like No. It was good. It was pretty cool to see

her just So where where about Sweden? A place called Big Bear Lake. It's

it's crazy. We're we're in LA, which is, you know, hot weather and we're

gonna blow up. You drive an hour and a half and a half up to

this mountain and then it was just dumped everywhere

and just amazing. So, yeah, I had a really good sort of,

little day there. Then we drove down to San Diego and then flew to Mexico

and just had the house for 2 weeks, 10 days or

something. And it was just beautiful. Like stingray. You could

just see the stingrays out of our front, like, on our balcony just looking

at houses on the beach. How nice is that? Like, that's Yeah.

That people are happier when you can see water. Yeah. And there's a reason

why. Yeah. Is that life fat fast? It is. 100%. Yep. People live near the

beach. I think it's 10 or 20%. They're they're happier. Mhmm. And that's not just

people living on the beach. It's like Yeah. That'd be us. You know, we live

near the beach. We're very fortunate, but actually living on it Yeah. As

you're waking up to that every day. Oh, mate. This this sunrise You just look

at it. Phenomenal. Yeah. But no. It

was good. I mean, 1st international trip with the girl and, you know,

you find out a lot about each other. You do. And, Do you wanna go

any deeper? You are pretty good at, like, I don't I

don't bait you much. Someone always just tell me. I'm like, oh,

I didn't expect that to come out. I'm more than happy to talk talk about

her forever. She's a star. Oh, yeah. He was

smitten. And listeners, I must have been very smitten this morning.

I haven't seen the great man at the 5 o'clock class in a while. And

he was very happy of life and himself. And he told me about skiing, but

more importantly, how the trip went. Yeah. Because they're pretty brave. I'll be honest.

Yeah. Very brave move, what you did, I feel.

I agree. I'm all for it. Like, why wait? Yep. I agree. If you can't

travel with someone anytime, it's never gonna work. Exactly. Exactly. Most

people don't do that. Within 2 months. You're not most people though, Jacko. Within

2 months. Oh, I sort of I love, like, that she was up for it

too. You know, like, we've, you know, we're just sort of really getting started, and

it's like, alright. Let's go to Mexico and LA and fucking travel around

the world for 2 weeks. So it was, it was a risk and it

was but I think we were both, you know, we're both once you sort of

when you got an idea of someone, it's like, you know, we'll make it work.

But and look, granted, there was there was times where, you know, you're

stressed and you, you know, but it was, it's

really nice with her that we can sort of just communicate it and

talk about it. Oh, very powerful. And, you know, like, talk about

it like adults and not get too, like, emotional and,

you know, so it was it was it was beautiful. And then, you know, just

being able to jump on the slopes with her and then, you know, next minute,

like, when we first got in, she was like, let's go to the gym. Like,

I just love that so much, you know, like, being able to do that with

your partner. Like, usually it's me off on my own, you

know, having to go there and she wants to go and do something else or

whatever. Whereas, you know, pretty similar interests and,

you know, she stayed over the night. We got back. So if that says anything,

you know, we still wanted to see each other even when we got home

to after 2 weeks in each other's pockets. I think something's

something's going well. Oh, great, man. He's

glowing. It might be the 10, might be the jet

lag, might be the ability to ski after one day, but I think it's more

than that. Nice to see you, mate. Nice to see you. Ideas. I think,

and we've spoken about this before. I know you mentioned when you went, to

Europe with Will. Traveling is the most,

it it the biggest leveler on every level. Yeah. Like it

Yeah. It shows a true personality and traits

of just about anybody in any situation. Yeah. Because as you

said, you had great time, but there would have been stressful times. Yep. And that's

part of traveling. Yep. If you can navigate that, mate. Exactly. And

that's that's what I reckon is so good about it, isn't it? Like, it's pretty

easy in your comfortable home environment to put your best

self out there 20 47. Yeah. You know, but it's when you've had no

sleep, you've flown over 14 hours, you've got a delay,

you know, your flight's canceled. That's when you really see, you

know, like how does someone sort of act and treat other people

and, you know, those those sorts of things. And,

you know, when you've, yeah, it was just

it was just an awesome couple of weeks to really get to know each other

and, you know, and the fact that we're

we're still Going strong. Going strong, it's a pretty good sign. So That's

great. Yeah. It was, it was amazing. Swam with the whale

sharks. But did did was there a big whale or was that a whale shark?

It was a it was a whale shark. So they're the biggest fish in the

ocean. Yep. But we sweat yeah. They they can they can get up

to I think she said 20 no.

It couldn't be 20 meters. Nah. I think they can get up to like a

couple of bus like a couple of So we swam in the forest.

Animal like, she's an environmental scientist, like, did animal stuff. We went

to Galapagos Islands in South America Yeah. And I got a real big

lesson on animals. I was like, that's just swims in the water. I had no

idea. And she was telling me all about I remembered that. Yeah. But they're huge.

Yeah. Yeah. And just like friendly giants. So we swam with a 5 meter and

a 7 me 7 and a half meter Yep. Whale shark. And so and like

just They're harmless, aren't they? Harmless. Yeah. Just so friendly and

docile. They do swim pretty quick, so you gotta sort of go with them. But,

but, yeah, like, it was just one of the bucket list item for me. Like,

I just love, you know, any animal really. And and, they're

sort of like the the biggest fish in the ocean and they're friendly and it's

you see all the videos of people with them. So I was always on the

radar and then, it just we didn't really have it planned. And then the day

before it was like, it was gonna be a good day over there, no wind.

And we just sort of thought, you know, why not? Let's give it a crack.

So that was pretty special. Did some, paddle boarding or so?

Yep. Nice little pat like Yeah. Wake up 5 AM and the sunrise coming

out over the ocean. Yep. And, like, I just get out in the paddle board,

go for a bit. And there's these big rays just like

10 meters off the shore, fish flying around everywhere,

dolphins, like, yeah. It was pretty spectacular. And

then Alan just loves her food, so we just tacos and,

burritos and nachos and all the rest of it. So Any any

tashemi? They actually had some of it.

But we I hope you didn't spell it wrong. No. No. We we steer clear

of the tashemi. Shamia

car, everyone. That's how you get the dirt off.

Yeah. They do have I've never been to Mexico. But, they do

have amazing cuisine. Yeah. Like So good. Fresh. We eat it all the

time here. Yeah. Exactly. Be incredible there. Yep. Yeah. You just

and, like, just going down to like, we were pretty secluded. We're in this little

sort of beach town called Los Barillas, which is, like, you know, hour from any

big city, really. Just out on its own. So you just go down.

We'd find these little local, you know, restaurants, like, run by

families, and you just go in there. It's the best fresh stuff,

like yeah. Pretty pretty amazing.

So, you know, by the end, we were we were the locals there just

down in Los Barrillos, you know. You would've stood out, obviously.

Yeah. Be glad. Yeah. You don't really blend

in, mate. And I don't mind chatting to people either. I wouldn't never

know. Geez. I'm learning so much about you today. But

no. Highlight. Highlight, Jacko. Like, can you Highlight. I know it's really hard.

Yeah. Was there a moment when you I'm sure there was a few of these.

But like you said, each morning, the sunrise, you're on the beach. Yeah. Was there

one moment where you just, like, you had to pinch yourself because you like, in

the present just, like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It was, like, several of

those. Yeah. Several of those really, like even just, like, waking up and just

looking at Alan and just thinking, you know, how lucky we are and like, you

know, she's just sitting there. She's a night owl, so she sleeps like a little

could sleep for Australia. This woman like this out like a lot doesn't

wake up. Nothing. So, like, just seeing the opposite of you. The opposite of me.

I'm just up in the morning ready to go. And, like, she doesn't it's good,

though, because I come to the gym in the morning. She barely hears me, like,

whatever. Like Yeah. You know, when I come to the 5 AM, and she's just

out. Come back. She's asleep with the dog. But, yeah, a lot of

like just pinch yourself moments. I think like honestly the highlights for

me, it's like just the real little things like, you know, there

was this little, a side bowl,

local place there that we'd go to most, most morning sort of thing.

And we had a chess board and we just started we both just played chess

and that was like, you know, so much fun. Yeah. And then, you

know, just making a little cocktail at 5 after we

worked over there, in the 2nd week. So, you know, you get to,

like, 5 o'clock, mate. Oh, so you're you're on the tools over there? Yeah. Yeah.

Just a couple for 3 days. Yeah. She had to she had to work. So

I thought Oh, you might as well too. Match up.

And, yeah, just just those little things like sitting out the back reading a both

reading a book or, you know, she's doing a little Sudoku and, you know

Sudoku. Yeah. She's 1 to 9 loves it. Yeah. Oh, but I've

never been any good at those. Really? Nah. Nah. It's my

forte. Is Yeah. Although I did screw a couple up which I was a bit

disappointed. You know when you get in in your like, oh, I fucked it. Like,

it doesn't work. That far in. If something's happened, I'm done one. And you can't

go back to find it. Yeah. So I was pretty disappointed in myself.

You'll get over it, bro. Yeah. No. It was all it was it was all

a bit of a highlight. I mean, waterfalls, we went to this hot springs place

and it was just stunning, like, middle of nowhere and you go

exploring up and jump I jumped. We found this little sort of hidden

little, you know, waterhole and it was just us 2 and it was

pretty special. And I've jumped up on this rock and, Alan, I gotta

go back for oh, no. Don't don't kill yourself. Blah blah blah. She's, you know,

I'm a bit psycho. She's a bit more reserved. And I've

jumped in and then I've said, come on, jump in with me and give me

a hug, you know? And she comes in, she's giving me a hug, and then

she just starts screaming, like freaking out and jumps out. And,

she goes, what the hell is that? What the hell is that? And these 2

snakes, like big sea snakes, are just swimming the fastest. So is swimming

in this in this water hole with these big snakes. That

would do. I thought you meant your snake.

Oh, that's creeped me out, Jack. I freaking hate snakes. I

jumped back in with him. I went back and did the backy and

oh. But they're just like, you know, I've I hope they're harmless. I I assume

they're harmless, but Well, that must be Yeah. You

go to life. Yeah. Exactly. I love that kind of shit. Just exploring

and having fun and yeah. Back to reality

now. Back to reality now, mate. You'll get over your jet lag. I love that.

I think it's, and you remember those things.

Yeah. I remember, like, the first few trips we did,

and, it's I I think that's when you realize that you

can be with someone. Yeah. Like, you already there's

things you love about them, and and you get along well, and friends, and all

these things. But the true side of somebody comes out when it's just

both of you Yeah. Outside of both your comfort zones in a completely

different country Yeah. Where so many things are

hard. Yeah. It's so amazing, but so many things can go wrong and

Yep. Yes. It's so true. Like and and that's the thing, like, it was

funny with her. I think she sort of wanted it to be this the perf

you know, wanted everything to be perfect. And I was like, Ellen, we've, you know,

we're gonna have things that you're gonna have to have things that piss like, you

piss me off at times. I'm gonna piss you off definitely. Like, if you can

deal with me for 2 weeks without getting pissed off, you're superwoman. So, you know,

it's alright. It's fine. Like, I think and that was it was good

to sort of, have these like, we had just like let's see how the

highlight would probably just like conversations with her, like really getting deep and,

you know, breaking stuff down. Like what makes her tick

and what gets her angry or what gets her stressed and what and, you know,

what I need from a partner and what she needs from a partner and all

those things. Like, you really sort of delve into those because, you

know, whatever that might be, you know, things that,

that came up. But, you you

when you're traveling, you do really sort of see those things.

And and for us, you know, just to

be able to really be honest and just get them out there and speak about

them with each other because, you know, it was it was probably like

yeah. After the first few few days we were we went out on the first

night in LA. Then we went up to the mountain, had a big day skiing.

Then I had to drive 4 hours down to San Diego, and then we catch

another flight down. You know, it was pretty, like, nonstop and stressful.

And you're tired. And you're tired Yeah. Because you're flying over there and you cooked,

and then she's doing she's not you know, the little things, whatever

it might be, like, you know, comments on or,

like, say something that I said that, oh, that's wrong. And I'm like, no. That's

right. It's like, what? You don't trust me? Or you don't value my

opinion? Or you don't you know, these little things There aren't big things, there are

big things. There are big things. And it just becomes you know, if you if

you let it bottle up and you let it you know, but there was and

then we just sort of got there, got to Mexico, and we just had this

beautiful chat that night. Like, how you going? Like, you're alright? Like, how's

everything? I can tell you're feeling a bit stressed, and I can tell this is

happening. And, you know, what is it about that that makes you feel that way?

Like, why It's so good. You know? And it was yeah. It was really it

was really nice to, to sort of work through that and

then, you know, have just the most amazing couple of weeks. So But

that's what traveling allows you to do, to be in those situations that

brings out things Yep. That you wouldn't normally see. You wouldn't see it for the

next 12 months or whatever. It's just both of you. Yeah. You don't have a

fight, and I'm not talking to you or whatever. You're there by yourself. Yeah. And

you can really break it down. Yeah. What brought what triggered you there? Like it

I don't know. Like but then you see the best of sides, and I just

think traveling is the most gratifying thing on so many levels.

Particularly, you're in a beautiful place, but I bet you think how lucky we are

to come back here. Yeah. Like Yeah. And that just reminds you of that. Yep.

But also, yeah, what it allows you to do with the person you're with. And

I feel now, there's only very small amount of people I could actually

travel with Mhmm. Because I know what I

need. Yep. Yep. I I think that's you only get that by traveling

with people. Yep. Yep. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. It's

an interesting one but It's good, mate. But yeah. Very good. Yeah.

Exciting. So but what about you? What's what's been happening in the last 2

weeks? This m c, master of ceremonies at your sister's wedding? The old,

emcee gig, mate. We're, we've spoken about this before. It's It's not

an it's not an easy gig. We get a few of these.

Oh, no. I must admit, I it's it's always nice when you get asked to

do it. It was my my sister, obviously. And so, yeah, I

was very happy to do it. But, yeah, I'm

probably at the stage where now I I don't really want to do it at

weddings. If if anyone's listening, they got a wedding coming up and going. Now people

are like, like, I find it hard to say no. Yeah. You just feel like

you're always working. Yeah. And it was a lot of fun. Like, don't get me

wrong. It was really nice to be part of it and,

yeah, and share, like, add to my sister's day Yeah. Which was really

good. Yeah. Actually, go a little bit. I don't know if this guy listens

or not, but, have you ever, like because I'm I'm a bit out there. You

know, I had everyone rocking. I I played this game. I started

with a game. So Timbo, who married my sister,

Hannah, he goes for Richmond. So I just googled it's called 123's

game. So I googled players at war number 1, 2, and 3 for Richmond. So

so Timbo's favorite player, Rory Hilton, Darren Gaspar, and

Duncan Callaway. A few people gotta laugh. Not many people know them. And then my

sister goes to Essendon, so I said Mark Harvey, Mark McCurray, and the fish, Paul

Salmon. They're their favorite player. And then I got into doing this game. Everyone heartened

it, like, went off. I knew it I knew it would. I was just a

bit nerve like, I just see my You never know for sure. Never. Oh, my

my sister's looking at me, like, what's he doing? And I'm like, no.

You know what? I believe in what I do. I know it'll work. Anyhow, I

did it. I had it rocking. And then I had a couple of gags, and

then the speech is coming, like, the best man Had me to

he's pretty happy with himself. Okay. He had a he had a go at

me. Yes. Oh, shit. You would've taken that

really well. No. But I normally Joe, like, have you is that

on Avenue? No. No. Me? What's in what way? Oh, I just

Like, when he gave the speech to everyone all Yeah. He got up and he

goes, oh, day. You're doing a great job. This is how it's done. You know?

Like like Oh. And he thought He was big dickin' going on. That's

exactly what Bree said. She goes, he was big dicking and he was big

dicking again. So you didn't just accept it. You

came back and I sat there moist talking and he was very cool. Yeah. Yeah.

But he was too confident and happy of himself. You know, I'm like, oh,

like, I can't I can't have this, Jack. So So you've

given him one back? No. It's been up and

did your mic drop on him and This is actually making me cringe sitting in

this so you've gone at him. No. Just What'd you give him? What'd you

give him? Well, he sorta

so I I really I I thoroughly thought about the

whole time he was talking. I'm like, should I do this? Or it was

very calculated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so Tim, who married my

sister, is bald and he's got a bit of a beard. Anyway, the guy I'm

not gonna say his name, but the guy that did it, he's looked identical. Like,

bald and a beard, and the other groomsmen had a heap of

hair, no beard. So I got up and I said, ah. I

didn't really know that, I really feel sorry for and I'm not gonna say

the guy with hair, but I really feel sorry for if you maybe had to

shave your head, grow the beard, and look like the groom, you could've got the

opportunity to stand up here and peacock like that. And then his name and then

his name rhymed with something else. And I did this little rhyme

and just mic dropped it, ever I lost it. But now I'm

saying it, I feel like a wanker man. I'm pretty

happy with myself all the time. You were stoked. You were stoked. And the best

thing is, Jaco, He couldn't do anything about it. He can't come back up and

have another go. You got the last laugh. Anyway, I felt I

I've thought about it a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you go over afterwards?

Yeah. I I had a chat with him and that, but I could tell, like,

there was no tension. Well, sometimes, you know. Sometimes people need to

be pulled down and beat. He did. He did need to be pulled down. And

I had a lot of people come through tonight. Because he started it. He 100%.

Anyway, I was gonna yeah. I normally let those things go when I'm talking and

stuff, but I had a cup of beers. I was like, you know what? I

didn't appreciate that. I'm not getting paid to do this. I don't

need to be and he was doing it for a cheap laugh. Yeah. So I'm

like, I'm gonna get you here. I'm not gonna put you down. It's gonna articulate

in a way that makes you look silly. Yeah. I I think I did it

well. But anyway so I did the MC. That's

great. I love that shit. Fuck. I've done a couple where

I've said some jokes, and they just it, like, hasn't landed, and I've been

thinking about it for weeks. And, like like, I remember I can't remember

whose it was, but I remember you saying, I think it was Gorny's. Gorny's name.

Yeah. And I just and, like, everyone probably no one probably even give a

gave a fuck. No. No. But you remember own head. Yeah. And, you know, just

little gags about someone or Gorney was, like, taking over the captaincy or

something, and I made some joke. And it's just like for

from the for the rest of the night, I'm thinking, oh, that he hates me

now. Yes. And it's like, fuck. Like, I don't know. It's just

almost like and then from that I just play it safe now. Just play it

safe. But that's where, like and this is what I've said. It's not about you

as the emcee. Yeah. You wanna add to it. Yeah. But saying jokes

never work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I thought I'd do a game. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's like, it actually works. Perfect. But that's what I do, I suppose.

But it's a very hard gig. I've spoken to a lot of people about it.

They've, like, do it as well. And Yeah. It's a very hard gig to

do it right. Some people are amazed. Like, I've had this fuck.

We just had this one. It was a it was a duo,

and his his name's Ben Simons. He's just just Two first

names? Yeah. Trustworthy? Trustworthy. Yeah. He he this man

is Simon.

But, but, yeah, just just nailed it. Just nailed

it. So funny and, like, you know, there's no

cheapies, like, not bringing anyone down, but just just hilarious.

I'm very well thought about. And I I don't think I have

that much time to prep I I don't prepare that much. I just sort of

jump into it where whereas I think the people that do it really well prepare

and put a lot of thought into it. Yeah. I I didn't look at

I think it comes because I do it for a job. You know, I talk

all the time. Mhmm. And you get a particularly some of the student sessions. I

get kids rip me and abuse me and Mhmm. Very good at

articulating ways. But I don't think an MC is about putting anyone

down. No. No. Anyway, I did. And

fair luck, buddy. Fair luck. Yeah. Well, I So, anyway, MC ing,

yeah. It's, it's a lovely thing to be able to offer. Yep. But

it's, it just You you you basically you're you're telling all your

mates, don't come to me. No. Well, most of my mates are married. I'll do

it I'll do it if my other sister wants to get married. Yeah. And if

she wants me to, she may not want

Yeah, Dale. You can just enjoy the night, don't you? Well, maybe throw some

pedals at you and be a flower boy. I said, alright. But, yeah.

No. It's nice to be part of it. Yeah. Definitely. But it's

it's a it's a very It is nice. They've they've trusted you

Yeah. To do it. With a, you know, responsibility for their day. Yeah. And I

didn't wanna stop it up. Because I had a lot of family there and and

things like that. Yeah. So, you think about that. But, anyway, that's about it. Brie

went away for work. So, you know, we've been talking about me going overseas

for work. Anyway, Brie went away for 3 nights. How did that go?

Oh. So real. So did you get a bit of

an idea of what she goes through? Yeah. And I knew what she's going through,

but I was like, oh, this is tough. Oh.

So she went away for 3 nights. You had the boys on your own for

3 nights. Yeah. And it was school holidays, so there was no kinder. Little

one was in daycare. Yep. But, oh.

Exhausting. Oh, relentless. Like, and then you could finally get them

down. You try and do some work. Like, you just don't have the

energy. Oh, nothing. I was broken. I took I took them both to the

gym because I was like, I wanna try and get a gym class. Yeah. So

I took them in. And there's he obviously, he's callers. Heaps of kids, like, all

there just on Ipads and doing their own thing and at my boys. I'm like,

I can't let them out of the pram because they're psychos. In the most nice

way, I love my boys, but A bit like that. Yeah. A bit like that.

And they have to put them in full too far in the tree. So I

had them in the pram, and just this talk time's going. So we've only been

there 5 minutes. Dad, get me out.

Dad. And I'm like and I'm like, I'm trying to ignore it to make they're

not my boys. And people are looking at it, they already knew it. And then

the little ones up the top, the big ones in the body starts kicking me

in the head. And then I'm like, so I

got about 30 minutes of a workout in. Must admit, I did a lot in

between because I saw them. They were just off their tits. So, anyway,

so yeah. That's that's about me, mate. That's that's interesting. It would have been

interesting, you know. Is that the first time you've had them on your own without

Bree? Yep. Both of them. Yeah. Would've been an interesting, I've had,

like, she's gone away for a night or something, but Yep. It's a lot

different when multiple days. Yeah. And, like, you know, she's not coming

back and, you know, you got 3 days. And and I mean, I guess, you

know, it might it would've sort of given you a bit of appreciation for

when you go away for the week and she's got them for the whole week

or Massive. 4 days and whatever and, you know, that's a big

reason why you made these changes early in the in the year. I did make

the changes, Jack. But then I'm like, oh, you're going away for work. No.

No. Must have been like Be the bigger man. Oh, no.

I I just had a very good meeting today. I have a big school in

Singapore. But no, that might be the

only one, Jacob. I know my reasoning is Singapore's only an 8 hour flight,

2 hours tired. I'm gonna get jet lag. I'll fly during the day. And Good

to see you. Well, you never know what happens here, I suppose.

But, I did get a bit of a glue. Now a couple of things all

to ring up, masters, today. Oh. Scotty. Oh. Oh. Would you have

you ever been? I've never been. Oh, it's bucket list stuff. It's,

it's a must do, but Do you know the best thing about it? Very hard

to get Really hard. Yeah. Do you know the best thing about it? You don't

like to take a phone in. You haven't been? I've never been. Oh, thank god.

If if you had been in the Masters before me, I would've been What it

why? Because I drive them so well for tea. Well, just because

I love golf. Oh, I love golf. Oh, I know. But no. So

the the thing I love I don't know no phones. You're not allowed to take

a phone. Can't run. Can't run. You still see people run,

though. Little waddle. They're probably Aussies. They can't even shoot. They wanna get their seat

in the right spot. Yeah. You watch everyone there, and

everyone is present. The only thing they're holding up are binoculars. Yeah. It's the

most there's no there's there's nothing that compares to

that. Yep. I agree. Like, that's amazing. No. It's so funny you say it. Like,

I had a bit of a fucking funk day today. Like, just I was

tired and I had a shitload to do. And 1st day, like, we're back at

work, but, you know, a lot to do at work. But I was just fucking

on my phone, like Instagram doing pointless shit

because I wanted to put off doing the other stuff. Delaying it. And I just

like even it's just like my the phone is such a big thing,

isn't it? And, like, even when we're away, like, Ellen's on her phone a lot.

So I was like into her, like, get off your phone. And then I come

back and, like, today I'm just on the on my phone. It was so bad.

And, so and I've I've, like, spoken to a few people who were there, who

went to the masters, actually, and they were, like, not having your phone. It's the

best. It's the best. It's liberating. And I've, you know, I've gone couple of weeks

off Instagram and stuff before and it's the best feeling. Why don't we

do it? Oh, God. But then you you just you think you're gonna miss out

and you're gonna, you know, you're gonna miss social things and

communication and all that. You don't you don't miss anything. I know. I've started, like,

when I go places, it does not take my phone. Yeah. And Bree's like, what

happens if I'm when I contact I'm like like, that someone will

contact you. Like, it doesn't matter. Mhmm. Like but that's what I love about the

masters. Yeah. Oh, that's hands down. All the tradition's amazing. The course

is ridiculous. I mean, Scotty's iron play as well is

pretty arousing. Oh, what about Bryson? I know people aren't

here, for golf, but made Bryson Shambo

made his own clubs. $10,000

or whatever, like, these irons. I just love how Hardy

tries to rip it. Right? The mad scientist. Yeah.

Yeah. He's oh, look. He's I I actually like him. A lot of he's

pretty, polarizing, but 100%. You either like him or you wouldn't. And I can

see how traditionalists would he'd grind their gears. Yeah.

A little bit. And he's a bit of a nerd. He just wants to but

I sort of see he just wants to fit in. He just wants to be

cool, but he's so not cool. He's so he's so He's so smart. Daggy.

Yeah. Just so smart. Yeah. He's smart. But, like, he's just an he's just a

nerd. But but I think he's sort of he was trying to be the cool

sort of different guy, but now he's really sort of owning who he is a

bit more. And I I just I sort of really enjoy him now.

Couldn't quite, you know, stay up there, but, Started

well. Yeah. Started really well the first couple of work first couple of days, but

then, had my little Swedish connection. So Alan,

obviously, big Swedish family. And Ludwig Orberg

Yes. Very good. He was, we were we were really rattling

him home and, you know, he was doing everything bloody well. I

mean, 1st major appearance. Oh, no. I'm glad that major he's ever played in. Just

Scottie was incredible. Like, he And Scotty's just too he's best player in the world.

Otherwise, he wins it. Like, you know, and even like that he just

had that shot on 11 where he pulled it into the water. That was the

first mistake he'd made the whole time. If he doesn't do that,

he's probably right there putting more pressure on Scottie since then. Scottie just doesn't,

like Yeah. It incredible. For people who haven't watched golf, like, just

Yeah. If you're ever gonna look at anything, the masters is by far it.

Yeah. In yeah. Amazing. And it really just

brings the best in the world to their knees. I think that's what I

appreciate about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's so so good. Like, those for

the day 2 and 3 when it was just windy and peak guys are just

dropping, like, best players in the world just shooting 7 over,

8 over, like, having meltdowns. Like, what did Justin Thomas do? He shot

7 over the last 4 or 5 holes or something Yeah. To miss the cut

by 1, like, just broke him. So And that

must be so hard. Yeah. That like Yeah. Because that's what that's why it's so

impressive for the people that win it. Mhmm. Rexam, back to back?

Rexam. Back to back? Wow. I haven't actually really stayed up

to date with them. No. I haven't either. I just saw that, they've been providing

soon doing one now, like 1. Are they? Yeah. Yep. So they've

gone from amateurs They've gone from to the championship to

now is it like league 3? No. They're in nothing.

They're only league 2, league 1. The next one is a championship, and then there's

premier. Really? Yeah. I'm pretty sure there's the 4

divisions. That's pretty cool. It's pretty epic. Mate, I was just From where they came

from. I love Ryan Reynolds. He's such a sick dog. And I saw him post

something like, never did I think I'd be crying over a game of

football in northern Wales. Yeah. But this, this is the ride of my life.

Like he literally says, this is the ride of my life. Like, and I just

love that story of like taking something and

growing it and giving it the chance to to blossom, you know,

like that. I'd I mean, fuck. Obviously, they've got the cash to be able

to do it with a with a soccer team. It's cost a little bit of

money. Yeah. But, like, for, you know, even just in your day to day

life, like, for me, I love that idea of, like, helping someone or

growing a plant or taking even, like, a skill, you know, like

skiing now. I just wanna go skiing and, like, get better because it's

like I can feel that I'm I'm through. Mate. I know. You look good in

that video. How much I how much better you can get, like, you know, just

improving and and growth. Well, you know anything. That repetition

Yep. You did it for a job. Yep. Yep. Exactly. I had a funny thought

today. I was like, I was speaking to an old man of mine who plays

bask NBL, basketball, and I was sort of saying, you know We wanna you

freaking you're gonna make it. Mate, I I this is literally what I said.

Mate, I said my toxic trait is thinking that I'd be able to go out

there and and do some damage. And he goes, mate, you should give it a

go. He goes, go down and and talk to your old old club. And then

I just had this weird thought, and I was like because obviously I'm fucking going

mad on my golf, and I I shot like a 76 at, Saint Andrews the

other day. Like, wow. So well, just hit the ball so well.

And then I was just thinking, oh, for the next however long in my life,

you know, I I wanted like, if you had unlimited money or

whatever and didn't have to work, I was like, what? I'd love to

just, like, commit golf 6 months. Golf would be

yours. Golf, basketball, even like,

you know, running like a a commit to a marathon. Right? And just

give it, like, do it like a professional. Yeah. So so do it

the, you know, the 3 sessions a day or the 2 sessions a day. Where

you're at at the moment, like golf, you're already

very good. Yeah. But golf would be surely that would be your

choice. Well Running I'm not saying I wanna do it all. Might break down. I

wanna do it all. I wanna do 6 months intervals. What of

everything? Yeah. Everything. Darts. Like, I wanna I wanna I wanna

become I've got a dart board out. It's just Extremely efficient at darts.

Pool we played a heap of pool in Mexico and, like, I'm pretty good at

pool. But then this guy came in and he won, like, a few tournaments around

the place and he comes in and he's he's better than me. And I'm just

like, I wanna get that good. Like, you know? So if I

train lose. Like, is it he can't just

lose. No. Hey, he's losing. I've I've never lost. I've just run out

of time.

It's like it's honestly, it's like yeah. It's an illness, but

I just, like, once I see something, like, even yeah. It's like

Jenga. Did you play Jenga? You wanna be the best at Jenga? Chess. Chess? I

wanna become the Queen's Gambit. Queen. I wanna I want to go

and take on someone in a competition at chess. Like, just

anything. Like, we played this Swedish card game Skoper.

Skoper? Skoper. And, I love card that's I love

cards. So good. It's my favorite thing to do. So good. You know do you

know how to play 500? Oh, you can 500 in me games, Jacko. Let's do

it. Mate, get me and you go. Me, you, Alan,

Breezer. Bray, mate. I'll be able to because you need 4 with 4.

Someone needs hook up the kids, mate. I do

really enjoy it. Alright. Let's do that. I love a good car game. Oh,

same. Oh, there you go. Maybe our girl

Kristen, Gibbo out there who was,

devastated that we missed our podcast last Friday. She was

messaging me on the Thursday saying I can't wait for tomorrow, and I said, yeah.

It was gonna be great. You didn't even And I left

That shows me your at. Mate, I was over in Mexico. I'm not I'm

not thinking about the pod too much. But, I sort of said, oh, yeah.

It'll be great. It'll be a good one. And he's throwing it 1 in the

pan. And she's missed me the next day

crying. Oh, no pod. No pod Friday.

Oh. So, maybe Kristen knows how to play cards and she can come

join us. But Oh, perfect.

Obviously, I do a little bit of the planning of the podcast.

But no. It's good fun. But, yeah, that's that's just a thought of mine. I've

I've got the marathon this October, and so I'm gonna give that a good red

hot crack. But then after that, you know, it might be an it might be

an NBL. I might just see how far I can go. Hey. Go for it.

Go and play go and play ball with, like, the, I don't know. Danny Nong

Stingray. No. No. Sandy Sabre. Go to Sabre's my my boy. Yeah. Heart and soul.

Where you at? Heart and soul. But where would I start? Like, are you

training with the under eighteens or do you train with the no. You go with

the straight of the men. To your thirties. That's true. You're not

you're not 29 anymore. Wait. No. You're all right. You go those 2. We're well

truly past 30. Stinking jokes they were.

There you go. There you go. Before we finish up, we've had a few shout

outs lately. I'd like to give a shout out, and he definitely won't be

listening. But, silly side bottom. Oh, yeah. He plays 314th

game this weekend, which passes Tony Shaw to be the

2nd highest game player at Collingwood. Behind Pendles? No

one will ever catch him. He'll get 400 this year. Pendles? Yep. Fuck.

Yeah. He's I think he's, like, in his 3 eighties. Yeah. It's

a Stilo Got a Stilo. 314. That's imp

that's crazy. That's madness. For those 2 to be currently playing and

obviously, are in those records. But, like, yes, a lot of

games of footage. Yep. Durable, in a good team, playing a

lot of finals. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty amazing. We've had him on the

pod. How good was that? We have. We have.

Did did I give a shout out to Big Woz from the gym? You did.

I did. Yeah. He did. He did. I saw him this morning to him and

said, Jacko's pretty happy with your wizardry. Oh, he sorted out my

sonox. I'm that happy. It's so good now. I can just bang, log on

to Spotify, get on the TV, get the bass going.

Oh, it's And that's what your neighbor thinks, mister joining in support of seriously. Yeah.

Fuck. You son offs. You sort of

Bad luck. Anyway, thanks, Woz. You're a legend. Oh, good morning,

Woz. Oh, well, there you go. Episode number 29. Beautiful. Another

great one in the books, and, it's good to be back. We do have a

very exciting guest next week. Would you would you like to,

join her? Of course, guest. Well, hopefully it comes through.

No. No. She's she's on. Oh, yeah. She's on. This woman, I admire this

woman. She she tackles a, you know, at all this at this stage

in her career, a male dominated sort of media landscape. She's on

the racing. She does the footy. She does a lot of sort of media stuff.

And she just I love her sense of humor.

She fucking cops shit from all these wanker fucking dudes who

think they know everything about sport, and she gives

it back to him 2 fold. And she's knowledgeable. She's a gun.

So we've got Georgie Parker coming on the the pod next

week. Oh, very good. Obviously Very good hockey player. Aussie hockey player

was was described as a player of her generation.

Really? In one article that I read, actually, she sent it to me. She said

she said you gotta put you gotta play these other ones. I'm not coming on.

So the player of her generation and, you know, she's just

she's a fucking legend. So I'm very keen to have a good chat to her

and, get into it. Well, there you go. Ladies and gentlemen, we're

back. We're far away. Jacko's in the country. It's jet lag. He's

feeling much better than me. He's like, I wanna go

skiing. Yeah. Well, have a lovely week everybody. Jacko, brilliant to

have you back, mate. Thanks, Sarty. Alright. I'll see you at 5 AM tomorrow. Yep.

I'm I'm in again. Oh, you will save me. Cardio, I'll look out.

Okay. I'll see you then. See you, mate.

Creators and Guests

Dale Sidebottom
Host
Dale Sidebottom
Is the creator and founder of Jugar Life and Energetic Education. Two multidisciplinary business platforms that provide people with the tools to make play a focus of their everyday. Dale is a full-time 'play' consultant who taps into his 20+ years working in the education and health sectors to educate individuals, schools, sporting clubs and corporate organisations globally on the benefits 'adult play' can have on mental health and wellbeing. Dale is the author of All Work No Play, a TEDx speaker and podcast host. Dale has worked face-to-face with students, teachers, schools and corporations in over 20 countries worldwide.
Jack Watts
Host
Jack Watts
Co - Host of The Overly Excited Podcast, owner of Skwosh Clothing.
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